Anonymous
Post 03/07/2025 07:22     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:Let's take bets on how long Musk stays in the government. 2 weeks? A month? 3 months?
Definitely less than 6 months.


From your keyboard to God's ears. Only divine intervention will get that man out of there, IMO, and I don't believe in God.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2025 07:21     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093

Do we think that this will have any impact on the pace of the layoffs? Or is it just for show?


My spouse's job just asked everyone for their personal emails in case of unlawful RIFs or firings, so they can contact them to get them back in the office if allowed.

So, no.
Anonymous
Post 03/07/2025 07:19     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:Let's take bets on how long Musk stays in the government. 2 weeks? A month? 3 months?
Definitely less than 6 months.


I thought Master Ketamine would be out when he took a press conference with his little kid x-t^f-squared. Then I thought he was out when the French Senator gave him the perfect name.

My only thinking on him not leaving soon is that he has a very large economy to pillage, old school style and holds some of drumps debt.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 23:34     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
I think it's likely that Musk will get thrown out of the government sooner or later. Nearly everyone Trump works with gets thrown out. He can't get along with anyone. His wife hates him. His kids probably hate him. No one likes him. They "work" with him because he's charismatic and he's a brilliant salesman who conned half a nation into voting for him. But sooner or later, they all leave, even Musk.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 23:27     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:Elon always had advisory power only, Trump had to be explicit because democrats insist Elon is firing people when that’s simply not true.


What exactly is he doing then? I’ll wait.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 23:05     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:This is the first step for Trump throwing Elon under the bus.

Elon was hired to be a patsy. He will do thr dirty work and take the blame for it when Trump eventually dumps him.


Typical CEO move to bring in an outsider to do the firings, like Norm Peterson.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 23:05     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093

Do we think that this will have any impact on the pace of the layoffs? Or is it just for show?


No Musk will fire Trump. Musk is a lot more popular vs Trump.


He absolutely is not. Why do people spew utter nonsense?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 23:03     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:People who think Musk "owns" Trump are delusional. Trump not only owns Musk, he is using him. Elon is a fool and Trump is going to make him the fall guy.


No Musk can shut down the federal government payment system at any time.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 23:01     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
People who think Musk "owns" Trump are delusional. Trump not only owns Musk, he is using him. Elon is a fool and Trump is going to make him the fall guy.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 23:00     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
This is the first step for Trump throwing Elon under the bus.

Elon was hired to be a patsy. He will do thr dirty work and take the blame for it when Trump eventually dumps him.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 22:55     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093

Do we think that this will have any impact on the pace of the layoffs? Or is it just for show?


No Musk will fire Trump. Musk is a lot more popular vs Trump.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 22:54     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093

Do we think that this will have any impact on the pace of the layoffs? Or is it just for show?

It’s a joke. Our agency just got some restructuring plans today that have the DOGE 🤡 fingerprints all over.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 22:52     Subject: Re:Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:Just for show. If T's lips are moving, he is lying.

I suspect Elon is scared. He keeps talking about how someone is going to kill him. He mentioned that on Joe Rogan.

The New Republic reported that Musk wants to blame the agency heads for the firings and not his beloved DOGE. But we have the tapes. He was gleeful about the firings.

He was happy to hurt USAID employees after USAID investigated him for breaking US sanctions to give Starlink to Russia.


Where does this bizarre Starlink lie keep popping up from?
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 21:42     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093

Do we think that this will have any impact on the pace of the layoffs? Or is it just for show?


I think it will slow them, but not entirely stop them.

Trump can read the room. Firing veterans, having to hire people back who do things like transport nuclear material or work on power lines, etc. isn't playing super well. Neither is Elon Musk, for that matter.

I think they approach they are going to take now will be to ferret anyone with performance issues, or anyone who has been formally reprimanded, anyone under investigation for wrongdoing, etc. I heard second hand that one of the IC agencies is enforcing their drug testing policy. It's always been on the books, but is suddenly being enforced. Then it will be formal RIFs or people heavily encourage to retire or resign with VERA/VSIP.


I imagine Trump is embarrassed that this isn't being done in such a way that people go away. Sure at first it was we fired a zillion probationary people. Then nuclear material people called back, NIH, FDA, and NSF have all called people back, USDA had to take back 4900 probationaries for now. That plus the plan to get rid of like 80,000 vets probably isn't planning that well. But then Elon owns him so he can't exactly scream at him like others. So he end runs it by telling agency heads to do terminations - hoping they'll be done the right way (or closer to the right way). For fed workers probably good if these firings stop/slow down and it's actual reorgs or RIFs with severance.


No one should have any illusions that this means that terminations will be fair or reasoned in any way. They will still be coming right from Musk, and most agencies will jump to fire whatever random percentage he comes up with.

It is interesting that they had this big public meeting though— seems like an admission that some of this isn’t playing so well.
Anonymous
Post 03/06/2025 21:13     Subject: Trump puts new limits on Elon Musk
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/06/trump-cabinet-musk-025093

Do we think that this will have any impact on the pace of the layoffs? Or is it just for show?


I think it will slow them, but not entirely stop them.

Trump can read the room. Firing veterans, having to hire people back who do things like transport nuclear material or work on power lines, etc. isn't playing super well. Neither is Elon Musk, for that matter.

I think they approach they are going to take now will be to ferret anyone with performance issues, or anyone who has been formally reprimanded, anyone under investigation for wrongdoing, etc. I heard second hand that one of the IC agencies is enforcing their drug testing policy. It's always been on the books, but is suddenly being enforced. Then it will be formal RIFs or people heavily encourage to retire or resign with VERA/VSIP.


I imagine Trump is embarrassed that this isn't being done in such a way that people go away. Sure at first it was we fired a zillion probationary people. Then nuclear material people called back, NIH, FDA, and NSF have all called people back, USDA had to take back 4900 probationaries for now. That plus the plan to get rid of like 80,000 vets probably isn't planning that well. But then Elon owns him so he can't exactly scream at him like others. So he end runs it by telling agency heads to do terminations - hoping they'll be done the right way (or closer to the right way). For fed workers probably good if these firings stop/slow down and it's actual reorgs or RIFs with severance.