Anonymous
03/04/2025 17:18
Subject: Re:Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Much more worried about the college seniors then the high school ones.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 17:17
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As long as they're not hoping to engage in research while in college, should be fine.
What does this mean? Why not research?
My god, wake up and see what is happening. I have a kid in college right now. All science research internships this summer have been canceled. ALL. Ongoing research projects have halted. This is at a private college. The same is true at our state schools. Graduate programs are announcing drastic cuts to the number of students they will accept for stem programs next year.
Np- I completely agree. My college kid at a private has a lot of friends whose research grants just got pulled for the summer.
Exactly, and then the competition for all the remaining jobs and internships has gotten more intense. Then you have students (like mine) who are in fields like Environmental Studies or Public Health or International Relations who wanted to go into public service jobs but who are now pivoting to switch majors or do a double major in something like Stats so they can broaden their employment prospects in the private sector. With fewer kids going to PhD programs, they'll all be flooding into the job market at the same time.
We also need to talk about student loans. They are trying to get rid of all the income contingent type repayment programs, and programs that forgive student loans for public service. Which means students will not be going into fields like teaching, or they will decide they can't afford to take on debt for law school or med school or dental or vet school. It all has a ripple effect.
The other thing I think we'll see is a drop in foreign students applying to U.S. schools. They are a huge source of revenue for many many colleges. For some U.S. students, this might seem like a good thing (less competition for seats) but ultimately it will mean less aid for U.S. students.
PP- I posted a few weeks ago that my hs senior had planned to study landscape architecture or sustainable design - those majors may be very affected right now and so I'm not sure how to guide them with current acceptances to those programs and both private and public.
This is a moving target and a train wreck.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 17:13
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
I think it's not the worst place to weather the next 4 years. I feel better for my high school senior than the college seniors.
I think research opportunities, what are left of them, will go to older students and grad students. But having undergrads do research is a bit of a recent idea. They'll be okay since everyone will be in the same boat.
This will force a lot of people into early retirement. They'll be jobs in 4, even more for kids who go straight to grad school and come out later
I think research opportunities, what are left of them, will go to older students and grad students. But having undergrads do research is a bit of a recent idea. They'll be okay since everyone will be in the same boat.
This will force a lot of people into early retirement. They'll be jobs in 4, even more for kids who go straight to grad school and come out later
Anonymous
03/04/2025 17:09
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:I've probably spent too much time on the politics board and need to shake it off, but there is a lot of doomsday talk involving college. I don't think people talk like that in the real world, but I don't want to bring it up and look nuts. My DC applied to all their schools in what feels like a different time. Now, I'm wondering how much impact the political climate will really have on our kids. Are you keeping them close to home or having them go to the less expensive school? Are you sticking with private schools or larger, state schools? Do you think what's going on will actually affect our kids who worked so hard to start college this fall? Does it always feel a little nervewracking or is this year worse?
Do I just need to stay off the politics board?
lol. Is this serious?
Anonymous
03/04/2025 17:03
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As long as they're not hoping to engage in research while in college, should be fine.
What does this mean? Why not research?
My god, wake up and see what is happening. I have a kid in college right now. All science research internships this summer have been canceled. ALL. Ongoing research projects have halted. This is at a private college. The same is true at our state schools. Graduate programs are announcing drastic cuts to the number of students they will accept for stem programs next year.
Np- I completely agree. My college kid at a private has a lot of friends whose research grants just got pulled for the summer.
Exactly, and then the competition for all the remaining jobs and internships has gotten more intense. Then you have students (like mine) who are in fields like Environmental Studies or Public Health or International Relations who wanted to go into public service jobs but who are now pivoting to switch majors or do a double major in something like Stats so they can broaden their employment prospects in the private sector. With fewer kids going to PhD programs, they'll all be flooding into the job market at the same time.
We also need to talk about student loans. They are trying to get rid of all the income contingent type repayment programs, and programs that forgive student loans for public service. Which means students will not be going into fields like teaching, or they will decide they can't afford to take on debt for law school or med school or dental or vet school. It all has a ripple effect.
The other thing I think we'll see is a drop in foreign students applying to U.S. schools. They are a huge source of revenue for many many colleges. For some U.S. students, this might seem like a good thing (less competition for seats) but ultimately it will mean less aid for U.S. students.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:56
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:Applying to the OP: Maybe I'm naive but I'm not really thinking it will change much for us. My senior applied to:
- private SLACS and our state U
- only in blue states
- got merit
- not a huge STEM head (though interested in neuroscience/neuropsych/public health).
We are business owners and have about half saved and have to cashflow the rest. I do think kids that are going for really STEM focused/research focused fields could be affected. Wishing everyone the best.
Yes, you are being incredibly naive. Public health, neuroscience, are you kidding? Jobs in those areas are being HUGELY impacted right now.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:56
Subject: Re:Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
My kid is a junior and I'm making a point of not talking too much about what's going on politically. I'm trying not to add stress to DS' already full schedule of classes/activities this year and remain hopeful, but wonder if all his hard work will be for nothing.
He does have one school in mind that's further away, his no. 1 choice; the remainder are in driving distance. We will see what's going on in about 8 months and go from there. But for now DH and I are talking about the excellent choices he has closer to home and have started talking about Canada as well.
Just this morning, I was reading about the philosophical/intellectual underpinnings of what is going on now with this administration - Curtis Yarvin, David Sacks, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel - and it's pretty frightening. Of course, their guy is JD Vance and let's not forget he gave a speech in 2021 entitled "The Universities are the Enemy." Doesn't bode well for our society and what's to come.
He does have one school in mind that's further away, his no. 1 choice; the remainder are in driving distance. We will see what's going on in about 8 months and go from there. But for now DH and I are talking about the excellent choices he has closer to home and have started talking about Canada as well.
Just this morning, I was reading about the philosophical/intellectual underpinnings of what is going on now with this administration - Curtis Yarvin, David Sacks, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel - and it's pretty frightening. Of course, their guy is JD Vance and let's not forget he gave a speech in 2021 entitled "The Universities are the Enemy." Doesn't bode well for our society and what's to come.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:55
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:Applying to the OP: Maybe I'm naive but I'm not really thinking it will change much for us. My senior applied to:
- private SLACS and our state U
- only in blue states
- got merit
- not a huge STEM head (though interested in neuroscience/neuropsych/public health).
We are business owners and have about half saved and have to cashflow the rest. I do think kids that are going for really STEM focused/research focused fields could be affected. Wishing everyone the best.
Those science programs at a state U will lose, and have lost, funding and faculty/TAs
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:55
Subject: Re:Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I have a HS junior DD and with everything going on these days, I want her to stay closer to home (no more than 6 hrs away) and definitely no deep red States.
Would you be OK with her at UNC, but not UGA? I'm just picking those two b/c of the driving time. Would Penn State or Michigan be OK (north, but purple)?
UNC or Penn State would be ok with me. GA and Michigan are too far from me (MD). None of these are deep red, although GA might be turning more red these days.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:53
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As long as they're not hoping to engage in research while in college, should be fine.
What does this mean? Why not research?
My god, wake up and see what is happening. I have a kid in college right now. All science research internships this summer have been canceled. ALL. Ongoing research projects have halted. This is at a private college. The same is true at our state schools. Graduate programs are announcing drastic cuts to the number of students they will accept for stem programs next year.
Np- I completely agree. My college kid at a private has a lot of friends whose research grants just got pulled for the summer.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:51
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Now planning to graduate asap, shaving off a year. Getting extra skills/certificates over break like phlebotomy just in case the bottom falls out.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:51
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
I have a high school senior and I think my kid might be safer at a private college versus a red state university - this is my current thinking but we will continue to wait until May 1 to see what things look like.
Loss of federal funding will affect state universities immediately, and if they are red, there will be no pushback from the legislature wrt anything coming from Trump EOs next.
Private schools will also be affected; many have privately funded programs that might be saved. Just waiting to see.
Loss of federal funding will affect state universities immediately, and if they are red, there will be no pushback from the legislature wrt anything coming from Trump EOs next.
Private schools will also be affected; many have privately funded programs that might be saved. Just waiting to see.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:50
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Applying to the OP: Maybe I'm naive but I'm not really thinking it will change much for us. My senior applied to:
- private SLACS and our state U
- only in blue states
- got merit
- not a huge STEM head (though interested in neuroscience/neuropsych/public health).
We are business owners and have about half saved and have to cashflow the rest. I do think kids that are going for really STEM focused/research focused fields could be affected. Wishing everyone the best.
- private SLACS and our state U
- only in blue states
- got merit
- not a huge STEM head (though interested in neuroscience/neuropsych/public health).
We are business owners and have about half saved and have to cashflow the rest. I do think kids that are going for really STEM focused/research focused fields could be affected. Wishing everyone the best.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:49
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:As long as they're not hoping to engage in research while in college, should be fine.
What does this mean? Why not research?
My god, wake up and see what is happening. I have a kid in college right now. All science research internships this summer have been canceled. ALL. Ongoing research projects have halted. This is at a private college. The same is true at our state schools. Graduate programs are announcing drastic cuts to the number of students they will accept for stem programs next year.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 16:46
Subject: Do you think our graduating seniors will have a normal college experience?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I've probably spent too much time on the politics board and need to shake it off, but there is a lot of doomsday talk involving college. I don't think people talk like that in the real world, but I don't want to bring it up and look nuts. My DC applied to all their schools in what feels like a different time. Now, I'm wondering how much impact the political climate will really have on our kids. Are you keeping them close to home or having them go to the less expensive school? Are you sticking with private schools or larger, state schools? Do you think what's going on will actually affect our kids who worked so hard to start college this fall? Does it always feel a little nervewracking or is this year worse?
Do I just need to stay off the politics board?
What exactly are you worried about? Funding for research? Not clear from your post. Not sure why they wouldn’t have normal college experience?!?
DP. All the polarizing protests, the militant lack of acceptance of any alternate POV.
How about another Kent State inspired by those from the very top?