Anonymous
03/11/2025 10:36
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Its no against the law to look at your cell phone map.
If you have to touch the map to re-orient it or change directions you will be interacting with a screen. It's quite possible AI will confuse a person using their phone for navigation with being distracted. Cars have bigger and bigger screens now with many functions requiring screen interaction.
Every newer car also has some sort of driving assist features allowing to keep the car in the lane and keeping the distance. Given we have this technology already it would be asinine to penalize people for fumbling with their navigation screens or change directions or a music playlist.
It's not difficult to differentiate someone who is fumbling with a built-in navigation system versus someone who is holding a phone in their hand and fumbling with that. You'll get a picture of the violation, so you can challenge if you really have a decent argument. But I don't see many people on the road fumbling with their dashboard screens, while I do see a ton of people texting while driving.
Anonymous
03/11/2025 07:32
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:We need stop sign cameras. If you watch an intersection, ZERO cars come to a complete Stop, or even a NEAR stop, or Stop BEFORE the Stop sign, they stop in the crosswalk if at all. No turn signals, no stopping.
We have one near us in DC and it’s primarily a revenue device. A safety device would be set less sensitively so not to ticket someone who pauses but doesn’t remain at a full stop for a couple seconds.
Anonymous
03/11/2025 06:53
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
The problem here is these camera tickets impact the owner and not the operator. Moving violations are supposed to impact the operator not the owner.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 05:09
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
^ nothing will convince me a big part of the issue is NOT those things.
Anonymous
03/07/2025 05:08
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Too much tech-enabled big brother automation and information collection with ongoing slippery-slope privacy effect, degrading life experience.
The parallels are clear with the information collected to support the undocumented. That is now hastily, and too late, being reconsidered as unfavorable enforcement seeks to utilize data for purposes not envisioned by those who encouraged collection in the first place.
We should have more in-person enforcement, narrower/saner laws to enforce, and penalties severe enough but flexible enough to steer behavior towards compliance across personal condition differences in society.
+1
Yes to cops enforcing stuff like the crazy cars or motorcycles who weave in and out of traffic at like 90.
No to this crazy escalation of big brother tech monitoring our movements constantly. Look carefully when you cross the street. Based on how pedestrians act when I drive in DC nothing will convince me that a large portion of the issue here is people walking out into the street without paying enough attention, crossing mid block especially when it is dark and they are wearing nothing to make them visible and similar actions that contribute to the accidents.
Anonymous
03/06/2025 20:01
Subject: Re:Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:I don't want to hear about another ticketing device being installed and the streets have huge crater size holes in them! What are they using this money for?? It's ridiculous! Create technology to address that first. I am so tired of dodging potholes while I drive and if I pop my tire the county makes it very hard to file a claim!
+1 million
Anonymous
03/06/2025 19:47
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
I’m literally IMMUNE from all this stuff when I drive - stop sign cameras, speed cameras, red light cameras, texting cameras - I escape ALL of them. Never got a ticket, never will. I have a foolproof method of beating them.
Anonymous
03/05/2025 16:25
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Its no against the law to look at your cell phone map.
If you have to touch the map to re-orient it or change directions you will be interacting with a screen. It's quite possible AI will confuse a person using their phone for navigation with being distracted. Cars have bigger and bigger screens now with many functions requiring screen interaction.
Every newer car also has some sort of driving assist features allowing to keep the car in the lane and keeping the distance. Given we have this technology already it would be asinine to penalize people for fumbling with their navigation screens or change directions or a music playlist.
Anonymous
03/05/2025 16:22
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Too much tech-enabled big brother automation and information collection with ongoing slippery-slope privacy effect, degrading life experience.
The parallels are clear with the information collected to support the undocumented. That is now hastily, and too late, being reconsidered as unfavorable enforcement seeks to utilize data for purposes not envisioned by those who encouraged collection in the first place.
We should have more in-person enforcement, narrower/saner laws to enforce, and penalties severe enough but flexible enough to steer behavior towards compliance across personal condition differences in society.
This sounds like AI wrote it.
But yeah, ITA on complete automation and law enforcement by AI. It can make mistakes and people have no recourse. Data collection is out of control too with the safety of people being compromised, more opportunities for fraud and personal data usage to harass and threaten people.
Anonymous
03/05/2025 12:54
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Too much tech-enabled big brother automation and information collection with ongoing slippery-slope privacy effect, degrading life experience.
The parallels are clear with the information collected to support the undocumented. That is now hastily, and too late, being reconsidered as unfavorable enforcement seeks to utilize data for purposes not envisioned by those who encouraged collection in the first place.
We should have more in-person enforcement, narrower/saner laws to enforce, and penalties severe enough but flexible enough to steer behavior towards compliance across personal condition differences in society.
The parallels are clear with the information collected to support the undocumented. That is now hastily, and too late, being reconsidered as unfavorable enforcement seeks to utilize data for purposes not envisioned by those who encouraged collection in the first place.
We should have more in-person enforcement, narrower/saner laws to enforce, and penalties severe enough but flexible enough to steer behavior towards compliance across personal condition differences in society.
Anonymous
03/05/2025 00:45
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Its no against the law to look at your cell phone map.
If you have to touch the map to re-orient it or change directions you will be interacting with a screen. It's quite possible AI will confuse a person using their phone for navigation with being distracted. Cars have bigger and bigger screens now with many functions requiring screen interaction.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 23:33
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Its no against the law to look at your cell phone map.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 23:24
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Enforce stop sign runners.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 17:41
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/02/24/distracted-driving-camera-bill/
I hate speed cameras, but I am 100% in favor of these cameras because the dangerous driving I see over and over again comes from people using their cell phones. They swerve in their lanes, they don't move when a light turns green, they drive well below the speed limit and jam up traffic -- all because their faces are jammed into their phones. Accordingly to the article, in a pilot, "we were capturing 2,500 violations per day at these nine locations, basically 20% of all vehicles passed through the automated system violated distracted driving laws."
So the new AI technology can also ticket reckless driving, tailgating, speeding, etc. I really question why these cameras are not in place a long 95, 295, 395, 495, 66, 270, etc.
Because everything has tradeoffs, and probably lawmakers are smart enough to realize that having people slam on their brakes on highways to avoid camera tickets is really dangerous. People do it all the time when the speed limit is 30, but when the speed limit is 65, it will very likely do more harm than good.
Contact the leadership where you live and take it up with them.
WTF? So no law should be enforced? These cameras are not some still picture. They track all vehicles and issue tickets when vehicles break the law.
Anonymous
03/04/2025 17:16
Subject: Distracted driver cameras coming to MoCo
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:https://bethesdamagazine.com/2025/02/24/distracted-driving-camera-bill/
I hate speed cameras, but I am 100% in favor of these cameras because the dangerous driving I see over and over again comes from people using their cell phones. They swerve in their lanes, they don't move when a light turns green, they drive well below the speed limit and jam up traffic -- all because their faces are jammed into their phones. Accordingly to the article, in a pilot, "we were capturing 2,500 violations per day at these nine locations, basically 20% of all vehicles passed through the automated system violated distracted driving laws."
So the new AI technology can also ticket reckless driving, tailgating, speeding, etc. I really question why these cameras are not in place a long 95, 295, 395, 495, 66, 270, etc.
Because everything has tradeoffs, and probably lawmakers are smart enough to realize that having people slam on their brakes on highways to avoid camera tickets is really dangerous. People do it all the time when the speed limit is 30, but when the speed limit is 65, it will very likely do more harm than good.
WTF? So no law should be enforced? These cameras are not some still picture. They track all vehicles and issue tickets when vehicles break the law.