Anonymous
02/25/2025 14:14
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:In those 4 hours, the body wouldn't have started to smell yet. Unfortunately been around a lot of dead bodies.
Regardless, completely unacceptable for this to happen and I can't believe there isn't a plan B for situations like this.
They won’t smell from decomposition in four hours, but bladder and sphincter muscles will relax and the body will void itself of any remaining urine in the bladder as well as any feces still in the rectum or descending colon. So that will certainly smell.
Also, the blood will pool in the lower extremities, and in certain circumstances (existing wounds, thin skin, fissures, hemorrhoids, varicose veins) it can build up enough fluid pressure to burst through and start seeping out.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 14:13
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:4 hours is nothing. Once the double digits are breached, things start to go south.
4 hours sitting on a dead body - especially one that you saw alive a short time ago - probably feels like an eternity. Especially when it’s already physically uncomfortable sitting next to people that are obese on a plane even when they’re alive.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 14:13
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:My heart goes out to the woman and her family, but honestly, if someone is that large and heavy that multiple flight attendants can’t move her when she literally dies on the flight then they wouldn’t be able to move her either if there was an emergency where all the passengers needed to disembark quickly. This is a major safety issue. People so big and heavy should not be allowed to fly on regular planes. It’s is a hazard to everyone else. If there is enough demand (sadly they probably is) then they can make special planes with wider seats, wider aisles, and perhaps special equipment to help move passengers if need be.
I saw this as a woman who is 4.11 and not overweight at all. Maybe they just need to make ALL airplanes big enough to accommodate all of their passengers.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 14:11
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
My heart goes out to the woman and her family, but honestly, if someone is that large and heavy that multiple flight attendants can’t move her when she literally dies on the flight then they wouldn’t be able to move her either if there was an emergency where all the passengers needed to disembark quickly. This is a major safety issue. People so big and heavy should not be allowed to fly on regular planes. It’s is a hazard to everyone else. If there is enough demand (sadly they probably is) then they can make special planes with wider seats, wider aisles, and perhaps special equipment to help move passengers if need be.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 14:05
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:I have wondered how these things play out in the era of "Please bear with us as we have a completely full flight today." My dad was a doctor and I remember him taking care of someone on a plane who had a heart attack. This was the old days and they cleared out a whole row and laid the guy across the seat. I remember seeing a video of a lady giving birth on a plane and they had her laying in the aisle. I wondered if it was because there weren't any spare seats. It seems like a kind of gross public health thing. If someone had norovirus or something, would there be a row they could clear out - or would the guy just basically poop himself and throw out likely covering the people sitting next to him? Honestly seems like there should be some legislation mandating that every plane have an empty row
That’s actually a really good point
Anonymous
02/25/2025 14:02
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
I have wondered how these things play out in the era of "Please bear with us as we have a completely full flight today." My dad was a doctor and I remember him taking care of someone on a plane who had a heart attack. This was the old days and they cleared out a whole row and laid the guy across the seat. I remember seeing a video of a lady giving birth on a plane and they had her laying in the aisle. I wondered if it was because there weren't any spare seats. It seems like a kind of gross public health thing. If someone had norovirus or something, would there be a row they could clear out - or would the guy just basically poop himself and throw out likely covering the people sitting next to him? Honestly seems like there should be some legislation mandating that every plane have an empty row
Anonymous
02/25/2025 13:55
Subject: Re:I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It really is no different than sitting next to a sleeping person for 4 hours from the safety perspective. They should have placed the deceased woman as far as they could from other passengers to avoid emotional distress but it's really not a safety issue.
Pretty soon after you die you expel what’s is your bowels. Definitely a safety issue.
Not a guarantee.
Ok then. Another stupid lesson Karen needs to seen for herself.
Totally incomprehensible retorts are my absolute favorite.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 13:53
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
4 hours is nothing. Once the double digits are breached, things start to go south.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 13:49
Subject: Re:I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It really is no different than sitting next to a sleeping person for 4 hours from the safety perspective. They should have placed the deceased woman as far as they could from other passengers to avoid emotional distress but it's really not a safety issue.
Pretty soon after you die you expel what’s is your bowels. Definitely a safety issue.
Not a guarantee.
Ok then. Another stupid lesson Karen needs to seen for herself.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 12:23
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:Couldn’t they have placed the body on the floor of the galley kitchen area?
Doesn't sound like it. The other article I read said the woman was quite large and obese. The employees struggled to lift her and once they got her on the airplane wheelchair on board, she didn't fit down the aisle. The other article included a line about how the employees picked the closest open seat once the passenger had been removed and moved a bit from her original seat.
What I don't understand is why the airline crew didn't move the couple to the other open seats that were available? That's common sense, come on.
But also, I"m sure they didn't want a body on the floor because of turbulence. Someone that large could be a big hazard during severe turbulence.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 12:06
Subject: Re:I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It really is no different than sitting next to a sleeping person for 4 hours from the safety perspective. They should have placed the deceased woman as far as they could from other passengers to avoid emotional distress but it's really not a safety issue.
Pretty soon after you die you expel what’s is your bowels. Definitely a safety issue.
Not a guarantee.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 11:58
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Couldn’t they have placed the body on the floor of the galley kitchen area?
Anonymous
02/25/2025 11:57
Subject: Re:I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:It really is no different than sitting next to a sleeping person for 4 hours from the safety perspective. They should have placed the deceased woman as far as they could from other passengers to avoid emotional distress but it's really not a safety issue.
Pretty soon after you die you expel what’s is your bowels. Definitely a safety issue.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 11:54
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Anonymous wrote:First of all, who declared her dead? If she was having a life threatening medical event wouldn't that trigger an emergency landing? Not just "well, she looks dead, let's get to where we're going and then worry about it." Damn.
A person with no pulse is dead. I hope someone tried CPR though. Sometimes there is nothing that can be done, especially if there is no medical personnel on the flight.
Anonymous
02/25/2025 11:52
Subject: I don't get how this is possible (a little bit of a sensitive topic so trigger warning!)
Where else were they supposed to put the body? In the lavatory?