Anonymous
Post 03/09/2025 20:22     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
We have a major first amendment crisis taking place right now.

Between the challenge to the media, our law firms/legal institutions and the government removal of people because of their speech, our constitution is being eroded dramatically. And no one is saying a darned thing.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2025 09:12     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?


Remind me where in the 1st Amendment it says you have to use legal names for things when you talk to the President specifically?

Also, the quibble isn’t that they aren’t using it when talking to him. It’s that they aren’t using it in their own publications regardless of whether those refer to the President.

And you know, that DC motorcyclist who flipped the bird at the President’s motorcade a few years ago won her 1st A suit. Because the 1st A protects even disrespectful speech. And speech you don’t like. And speech the President doesn’t like.

+1 Jim Acosta and Brian Karem already won lawsuits just like this one.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2025 08:58     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why the other media don’t boycott the next WH or Oval Office presser


The same reason that Congress is saying nothing.

Lack of character.

+1 The Obama administration declined to offer Fox News access to some deputy secretary of something’s press availability and every other member of the WH press corps went apeshit.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2025 07:14     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jim Acosta is the one who suggested they do this. He also said the next step, after a lawsuit should be a blackout of news on Trump. Sounds like they’re listen to him.


Oh, good. I like his idea of the blackout on news coverage and just suggested that in my previous post.

SNL should do the same. They can make fun of other people in the admin but completely ignore T.


OMG, that would be heaven. It’s not like all the never-ending criticism of him and pointing out that he’s evil is doing much good. So let’s try another tactic. Let the crazy blonde lady speak to an empty room.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2025 07:12     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?


Remind me where in the 1st Amendment it says you have to use legal names for things when you talk to the President specifically?

Also, the quibble isn’t that they aren’t using it when talking to him. It’s that they aren’t using it in their own publications regardless of whether those refer to the President.

And you know, that DC motorcyclist who flipped the bird at the President’s motorcade a few years ago won her 1st A suit. Because the 1st A protects even disrespectful speech. And speech you don’t like. And speech the President doesn’t like.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 20:06     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
AP is a dinosaur. Totally blows!!
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 20:05     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why the other media don’t boycott the next WH or Oval Office presser


This would play into Trump's hand letting him say they chose not to attend.


And let Trump get away with doing things without answering questions. Though they need to start asking tougher questions and having tougher followup.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 20:03     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:Jim Acosta is the one who suggested they do this. He also said the next step, after a lawsuit should be a blackout of news on Trump. Sounds like they’re listen to him.


💯

They should. The media coverage is what he thrives on. Take it away.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 18:42     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?


It's a body of water. That's international. The US can call it whatever it wants but it doesn't have to be catered to internationally. It's also been referred to as the gulf of Mexico since 1600s.



This. It is an international body of water and the AP is a global news organization with bureaus all over the world.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 11:06     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:Jim Acosta is the one who suggested they do this. He also said the next step, after a lawsuit should be a blackout of news on Trump. Sounds like they’re listen to him.


Oh, good. I like his idea of the blackout on news coverage and just suggested that in my previous post.

SNL should do the same. They can make fun of other people in the admin but completely ignore T.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 11:05     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?


It's a body of water. That's international. The US can call it whatever it wants but it doesn't have to be catered to internationally. It's also been referred to as the gulf of Mexico since 1600s.

Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 11:05     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why the other media don’t boycott the next WH or Oval Office presser


He would shrivel up if everyone ignored him.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 10:56     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?


I think they’re testing this because this is exactly what Ohio’s Congress is trying to pass wrt its colleges. The widening of facts and history.


Perhaps. It is a "flex" as some would put it, but it's grounded in the law.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 10:26     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?


I think they’re testing this because this is exactly what Ohio’s Congress is trying to pass wrt its colleges. The widening of facts and history.
Anonymous
Post 02/22/2025 10:23     Subject: AP sues 3 Trump administration officials, citing freedom of speech
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The suit is unlikely to be successful. Is there a Constitutional right to be in the inner-circle of press covering the President? Didn't Biden ban certain media outlets? Didn't an appeals court already rule on this in the case involving the African reporter (Karem)? While he won that case, the court did say the White House could restrict passes if it gave notice it would suspend for misbehavior. Isn't failing to call a body of water by its legal name inappropriate, particularly if the AP is insisting on doing so to tweak/irritate the President? The First Amendment doesn't mean you get to break the White House rules on media behavior.


Calling speech like that 'misbehavior' is a gross violation of the first amendment. I can't believe how many MAGAs sound like commies.


It's not up to you or me to draw the line as to what is misbehavior. There is a legal name for the body of water in question. If you are going to have the right to ask questions of the President, you are required to use the legal name of that body of water. If you refuse to do so, how is it a violation of your First Amendment rights to deny you a permanent pass?