There is too much measure in headlines and not just conservative ones. I see a lot of "Bannon accused of/appeared to/seemingly/Did Bannon.../Was it a Nazi salute..." How about saying Bannon did it? Not sure why we need to qualify something that can be seen first hand for what it is.

Anonymous wrote:Is this surprising? Why a thread about the obvious. Republicans have been pushing a white supremacy agenda for years.

But they pretend it isn't. Many of them are in complete denial and take great offense to being called out as a white supremacist. Those are the ones we might be able to reach. They can no longer deny that they've been voting for Nazis. Maybe they can be shamed into helping us save the republic from what they've empowered because trans people make them feel icky.

Anonymous wrote:Hasn’t David Hogg given the Nazi salute before, at his rallies ?

No. ??

Is this surprising? Why a thread about the obvious. Republicans have been pushing a white supremacy agenda for years.

Everyone with any contact with their MAGA friends and family need to sit every one of them down, make them watch this video, and answer for it. Make the look what they've been supporting in the face. Maybe a few of them can be snapped out of it with something this freaking obvious. YOU BACKED THE WRONG HORSE. There's still time to save the country if you WAKE UP.

Hasn’t David Hogg given the Nazi salute before, at his rallies ?

Glad he really committed to it, unlike Musk who tried to play it off as something else. I don't know how anyone could try to defend this as something else, though I know many will try.

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Anonymous wrote:people who cannot see what is happening here - are beyond so dumb. I cannot understand it. How are they so so stupid? What educational system failed us so badly that there are so many people in the US so so dumb as to fall for any of this and not see what is in front of their faces.

I think they see it just fine, but the goal is to deny, deny, keep doing it and deny (Musk did the same) and eventually people become desensitized to it and accept it as normal.

Musk never denied it. He made Nazi jokes on Twitter instead. The media did the denying for him, trying to tell us it wasn't what we could see with our eyes that it was.

They'll do the same again, and MAGA will once again pretend they aren't a bunch of white supremacists who have destroyed our democracy because they're scared of becoming a minority.

The gaslighting is a way of victimizing people a second time. Do something offensive, then deny it and tell people they’re overreacting (or wetting themselves like a little child, as Bannon so charmingly put it). He knows perfectly well what he did. We all can see it.

They’re so drunk on their own power, they think they can redefine reality.

They are daring the GOP to call out this open racism. Let’s see if anyone has a shred of decency, but I’m not holding my breath.

What say you, MAGA? Ready to admit what you've been supporting?

This will now be the litmus test for nominees and others who want to be in the inner circle.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone trying to spin it as a "Roman salute" is grasping at straws. That's like saying we can use the swastika as a Hindu symbol.

Everyone with eyes knows what it was.

The two swastikas are rotated.

Anyone trying to spin it as a "Roman salute" is grasping at straws. That's like saying we can use the swastika as a Hindu symbol.

Everyone with eyes knows what it was.

Anonymous wrote:people who cannot see what is happening here - are beyond so dumb. I cannot understand it. How are they so so stupid? What educational system failed us so badly that there are so many people in the US so so dumb as to fall for any of this and not see what is in front of their faces.

I think they see it just fine, but the goal is to deny, deny, keep doing it and deny (Musk did the same) and eventually people become desensitized to it and accept it as normal.