Anonymous
02/18/2025 14:35
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:It’s about Pell grants. How important are Pell grants to you in terms of ranking a college or university?
Next year all these type of things are going away. So I guess the ranking will radically change again.
It’s only 11% of the methodology and it is more focused on Pell grant recipient performance than just the number of recipients. This has always been overstated on DCUM.
Except for a few schools, the bigger impact was the stuff that got dropped, some of which made sense (alumni giving) and some of which didn’t (faculty with terminal degrees).
Anonymous
02/18/2025 14:24
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:There's no validity to any of it. It's dumb to say the rankings are less valid because X school is now higher than Y school. The nature of cooked data like these ranking is it never has had any intrinsic validity.
+1 they never had any validity.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 14:12
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
US News is total crap. They change formulas constantly and it's all a game. Honestly, it's meaningless.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 14:12
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:when Rutgers is now ranked higher than Tulane, CWRU, Miami, Wake, etc. after being perennially ranked in the 70s?
I say this as a second generation Indian-American, the college rankings obsession is almost solely a first-generation Indian and Asian striver thing.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:59
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
There's no validity to any of it. It's dumb to say the rankings are less valid because X school is now higher than Y school. The nature of cooked data like these ranking is it never has had any intrinsic validity.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:59
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:when Rutgers is now ranked higher than Tulane, CWRU, Miami, Wake, etc. after being perennially ranked in the 70s?
Butthurt because you went to one of the aforementioned middling privates.
Got it.
EXACTLY. So sick of the same people constantly grousing about the rankings - we know it’s because they’re unhappy with their favorites being demoted.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:56
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:It’s about Pell grants. How important are Pell grants to you in terms of ranking a college or university?
Next year all these type of things are going away. So I guess the ranking will radically change again.
Why would they be going away?
The 2017/2018 rankings are to many the most accurate of actual quality because USNWR started adding social mobility factors into the methodology in 2018 for the 2019 rankings. The rankings were tweaked in 2017 to bump some publics higher but that was a relatively minor move compared to what has happened since.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:55
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:when Rutgers is now ranked higher than Tulane, CWRU, Miami, Wake, etc. after being perennially ranked in the 70s?
Rutgers main campus is at least as good as all of the schools that you listed.
In terms of test scores, student wealth, institutional wealth, percent submitting scores: absolutely not
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:55
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
if only it could go back to the good ole days when what others thought of you carried the most weight, so the good ole boy network could still keep churning....
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:52
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:when Rutgers is now ranked higher than Tulane, CWRU, Miami, Wake, etc. after being perennially ranked in the 70s?
Rutgers main campus is at least as good as all of the schools that you listed.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:51
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:The controversy over the US News rankings comes from how they weight different factors.
What's unfortunate is that US News could easily allow people to construct their own weights and generate new rankings based on them.
Say, if you think graduation rates are really important, increase their weight. Or if you care most about academic reputation? Give that more weight. All of this would be simple to do, but it would show how much the Top 20 (or whatever) colleges would change based on reasonable differences about what's most important. But it would make the rankings much more useful to actualy people!
Exactly !
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:49
Subject: Re:How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:Especially since a lot of you can't figure out what it means...what is T20? What is T50? What is T10?.... come on people
Maybe you should start a thread.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:46
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Following USNWR rankings for years, there does seem to be consistency in the top 25, but between 25-100 it's really a matter of who is trying to game the system and who is just doing their thing. Is there really a significant difference (academically) between the University of Florida and the University of Iowa? Both public state flagships, both R1 research. Student life - sure - but value of education, absolutely not.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:44
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:when Rutgers is now ranked higher than Tulane, CWRU, Miami, Wake, etc. after being perennially ranked in the 70s?
Butthurt because you went to one of the aforementioned middling privates.
Got it.
You believe that you are brilliant but you only succeed in highlighting your dimness. I went to a large public on Long Island which is objectively better than Rutgers in every way. Yet I would not presume to make the statement that you did because it is just plain false. Nothing wrong with a public school education but your obvious insecurities are affecting your judgement.
Anonymous
02/18/2025 13:41
Subject: How can anyone take US News rankings seriously
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:when Rutgers is now ranked higher than Tulane, CWRU, Miami, Wake, etc. after being perennially ranked in the 70s?
Butthurt because you went to one of the aforementioned middling privates.
Got it.
People like you put WAYY too much faith into USNews and would probably blindly believe anything it told you