Anonymous wrote:My two cents on it as a parent whose DC REA'd to a HYPSM last fall and was deferred is EDII is probably the toughest call/ most exploitative aspect in the whole application process. The colleges start emailing them to convert to EDII, school counselors pressure them to pick an EDII etc. My student initially EDII to UChicago and then spent about a week regretting it until he contacted their Admissions and withdrew the commitment. He wasn't the only kid in his grade who did so, another EDII to Rice and withdrew it. Both my DC and the other kid were accepted RD to Ivies and were super happy. The kids who kept in their EDII's (UChicago and Vandy) definitely both have regrets. Same for a relative to EDII to Northeastern.

You need to really understand if the EDII decision is driven by disappointment and panic as opposed to truly because the student has as real #1 and a close #2 that happens to offer EDII. Personally, I think that is a pretty rare situation.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s for HYPSM rejects.

Pretty much. Vanderbilt wants students that really want to be there. ED II seems to be for a handful of extraordinary students that took a moonshot at MIT or Stanford and didn't get in. But other than that, I don't think ED II is for anyone else. Save it for RD. Vanderbilt understands not everyone can apply ED I. But I think every ED II app is read with arched eyebrows. There has to be something extraordinary about the ED II applicant. Vanderbilt ED II is not a back up plan for a Duke ED I reject.

Anonymous wrote:It’s for HYPSM rejects.

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Anonymous wrote:Reviving this because we’re looking for more info on Vandy EDII. Keep seeing references to it being a waste etc?

What’s the downside to a strong candidate trying for this if rejected by their first choice REA/EDI at Ivy+ and Vanderbilt is genuinely their second choice?

Also, any stats or insight re kids who got in EDII? Where did they REA/EDI?

When we visited Vanderbilt two years ago, during the info session someone asked about ED II and the admissions person said something very close to: "If you're applying EDII, you better be able to tell us you just landed from Mars or have some other reason why you wouldn't have known about us and applied ED I." It was very off-putting. Don't offer it if students don't have a real shot at being considered. The arrogance of the admissions team was a huge turnoff for our DC, and they took it off their list.

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Anonymous wrote:Reviving this because we’re looking for more info on Vandy EDII. Keep seeing references to it being a waste etc?

What’s the downside to a strong candidate trying for this if rejected by their first choice REA/EDI at Ivy+ and Vanderbilt is genuinely their second choice?

Also, any stats or insight re kids who got in EDII? Where did they REA/EDI?

When we visited Vanderbilt two years ago, during the info session someone asked about ED II and the admissions person said something very close to: "If you're applying EDII, you better be able to tell us you just landed from Mars or have some other reason why you wouldn't have known about us and applied ED I." It was very off-putting. Don't offer it if students don't have a real shot at being considered. The arrogance of the admissions team was a huge turnoff for our DC, and they took it off their list.

As someone who actually likes the ED offerings, this still makes sense. If you have the finances to be able to ED anywhere and you elect to ED2 somewhere, that school will know that they are the second choice AND you didn't get into your first choice. They absolutely admit some kids under ED2 (and RD) but why is it arrogant for the admissions office to consider that ED2 students are considering Vandy as a runner up/back up/not first choice? After all, they ask what you'll contribute to the college campus community in an essay question...and they already know you weren't pro Vandy from the get go.

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Anonymous wrote:Reviving this because we’re looking for more info on Vandy EDII. Keep seeing references to it being a waste etc?

What’s the downside to a strong candidate trying for this if rejected by their first choice REA/EDI at Ivy+ and Vanderbilt is genuinely their second choice?

Also, any stats or insight re kids who got in EDII? Where did they REA/EDI?

When we visited Vanderbilt two years ago, during the info session someone asked about ED II and the admissions person said something very close to: "If you're applying EDII, you better be able to tell us you just landed from Mars or have some other reason why you wouldn't have known about us and applied ED I." It was very off-putting. Don't offer it if students don't have a real shot at being considered. The arrogance of the admissions team was a huge turnoff for our DC, and they took it off their list.

Anonymous wrote:Reviving this because we’re looking for more info on Vandy EDII. Keep seeing references to it being a waste etc?

What’s the downside to a strong candidate trying for this if rejected by their first choice REA/EDI at Ivy+ and Vanderbilt is genuinely their second choice?

Also, any stats or insight re kids who got in EDII? Where did they REA/EDI?

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Anonymous wrote:Reviving this because we’re looking for more info on Vandy EDII. Keep seeing references to it being a waste etc?

What’s the downside to a strong candidate trying for this if rejected by their first choice REA/EDI at Ivy+ and Vanderbilt is genuinely their second choice?

Also, any stats or insight re kids who got in EDII? Where did they REA/EDI?

You've described every single kid whose ED1 to somewhere other than X (in your case, Vandy) was denied. Don't you think that almost every single kid who applies ED2 somewhere "genuinely" wants that place as their second choice? Your kid is like every single ED2 candidate and Vandy knows this was your kid's second choice. No harm in doing it, but saying "genuinely is our second choice" gives you no leg up.