Anonymous
02/12/2025 16:49
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Except for conservative parishes, most Catholics are democrats so are fine with it. Remember Catholics are Irish, Italian and Latin American immigrants. We drink, have premarital sex and help the poor. There has been an uptick of conservatism in Catholicism but that’s a newer trend.
That is consistent with my lived experience. The Pope's statement was sent to me by a nun who wanted to make sure everyone saw it.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 16:18
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:I'm curious about how Catholics are thinking about the current position of the Pope, which is decidedly against the Trump administration's immigration policies.
If you're Catholic and opposed legal abortion because the Catholic church was against it (although the government obviously supported it), are you now opposing these immigration policies for the same reason? And if not, how can you reconcile that with being Catholic?
Catholics generally don't bother themselves too much about reconciling anything with being catholic. Most were just born that way and go along for the ride. I say this as a former Catholic.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 16:15
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
I'm not Catholic either, but this is all over my Threads feed for some reason (keep meaning to move to Blue Sky but not there yet). The Pope corrected Vance specifically on the Catholic doctrine of ordo amoris, that is, on Catholic theology not politics. Vance was arguing that being a Catholic means you should start with your narrow circle, then expand out to your countrymen, and only when their needs are met can you start to consider others like immigrants. No, the Pope said, ordo amoris means we need to "meditate constantly on the parable of the 'Good Samaritan,' that is, by medicating on the love that builds a fraternity open to all, without exception."
It’s in a sound bite all over Threads?! It must be true then! Sigh.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 16:13
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
Yup. And abortion is moral doctrine, the Pope can't change the teaching on that even if he wanted. Immigration is considered prudential policy and his musings on it have no authority over policymakers.
The rules on abortion were made up by a pope when he was not infallible so actually no.
While he may not have no authority overthe immigration policy, the policy is immoral in the eyes of Jesus.
Your interpretation holds no more weight than the Pope’s, I am sorry to inform you.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 16:13
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
I don't give a second thought to his thoughts on US politics. The Pope has a huge wall and security. Vatican City does not grant permanent residency to anyone. Citizenship is typically temporary and linked to certain employment.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 16:07
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
I'm not Catholic either, but this is all over my Threads feed for some reason (keep meaning to move to Blue Sky but not there yet). The Pope corrected Vance specifically on the Catholic doctrine of ordo amoris, that is, on Catholic theology not politics. Vance was arguing that being a Catholic means you should start with your narrow circle, then expand out to your countrymen, and only when their needs are met can you start to consider others like immigrants. No, the Pope said, ordo amoris means we need to "meditate constantly on the parable of the 'Good Samaritan,' that is, by medicating on the love that builds a fraternity open to all, without exception."
Yeah, Vance is wrong and also Vince isn’t really a Catholic he converted for politics. He didn’t even baptize his children, which is the number one thing you’re supposed to do as a catholic.
Ah, the "no true Catholic" fallacy.
It’s not that he’s a Catholic and doesn’t live the word that is the “no true catholic” fallacy
He literally became Catholic for political reasons and then never baptized his children.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 16:06
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
Yup. And abortion is moral doctrine, the Pope can't change the teaching on that even if he wanted. Immigration is considered prudential policy and his musings on it have no authority over policymakers.
The rules on abortion were made up by a pope when he was not infallible so actually no.
While he may not have no authority overthe immigration policy, the policy is immoral in the eyes of Jesus.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 15:55
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
I'm not Catholic either, but this is all over my Threads feed for some reason (keep meaning to move to Blue Sky but not there yet). The Pope corrected Vance specifically on the Catholic doctrine of ordo amoris, that is, on Catholic theology not politics. Vance was arguing that being a Catholic means you should start with your narrow circle, then expand out to your countrymen, and only when their needs are met can you start to consider others like immigrants. No, the Pope said, ordo amoris means we need to "meditate constantly on the parable of the 'Good Samaritan,' that is, by medicating on the love that builds a fraternity open to all, without exception."
Yeah, Vance is wrong and also Vince isn’t really a Catholic he converted for politics. He didn’t even baptize his children, which is the number one thing you’re supposed to do as a catholic.
Ah, the "no true Catholic" fallacy.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 15:24
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
Yup. And abortion is moral doctrine, the Pope can't change the teaching on that even if he wanted. Immigration is considered prudential policy and his musings on it have no authority over policymakers.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 15:21
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Except for conservative parishes, most Catholics are democrats so are fine with it. Remember Catholics are Irish, Italian and Latin American immigrants. We drink, have premarital sex and help the poor. There has been an uptick of conservatism in Catholicism but that’s a newer trend.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 15:14
Subject: Re:How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
I'm saying thank God someone is speaking out against this horrible administration.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 15:12
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
I'm not Catholic either, but this is all over my Threads feed for some reason (keep meaning to move to Blue Sky but not there yet). The Pope corrected Vance specifically on the Catholic doctrine of ordo amoris, that is, on Catholic theology not politics. Vance was arguing that being a Catholic means you should start with your narrow circle, then expand out to your countrymen, and only when their needs are met can you start to consider others like immigrants. No, the Pope said, ordo amoris means we need to "meditate constantly on the parable of the 'Good Samaritan,' that is, by medicating on the love that builds a fraternity open to all, without exception."
Yeah, Vance is wrong and also Vince isn’t really a Catholic he converted for politics. He didn’t even baptize his children, which is the number one thing you’re supposed to do as a catholic.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 15:05
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
I'm not Catholic either, but this is all over my Threads feed for some reason (keep meaning to move to Blue Sky but not there yet). The Pope corrected Vance specifically on the Catholic doctrine of ordo amoris, that is, on Catholic theology not politics. Vance was arguing that being a Catholic means you should start with your narrow circle, then expand out to your countrymen, and only when their needs are met can you start to consider others like immigrants. No, the Pope said, ordo amoris means we need to "meditate constantly on the parable of the 'Good Samaritan,' that is, by medicating on the love that builds a fraternity open to all, without exception."
Anonymous
02/12/2025 14:52
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Anonymous wrote:This question misunderstands the nature of the Catholic faith. The Pope is only considered infallible in very specific matters of church doctrine. His random thoughts about US politics are not that and hold no extra weight.
—I’m not Catholic, but I do have a basic education
This is the correct answer.
Anonymous
02/12/2025 14:39
Subject: How are Catholics reconciling Pope's disagreement with govt policies?
Will the Pope give up Communism for lent this season?