Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 19:08     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
My 2024 from UMD kid got into Maryland honors, +merit and got into W&M OOS- W&M was originally his top choice but when he looked at the cost difference and the honors dorm at UMD he decided UMD was just fine.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 19:06     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:In state? Target. OOS and TO with only 8 APs (yes, I know, but instate kids with 10+ great grades and tests scores are being rejected). Not a target. Maybe a little better than a reach though.

WM likes good test scores. And they really, really like demonstrated interest. Did she tour, interview and do the “optional essay” (which is definitely not optional)? If so, it pushes her closer to target.


I think hard target/low reach and I think she has a good chance (70%) of getting in due to demonstrated interest.

Yes she toured, interviewed, did both optional essays, met with the arts faculty, and was nominated for a scholarship.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 19:03     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:In state? Target. OOS and TO with only 8 APs (yes, I know, but instate kids with 10+ great grades and tests scores are being rejected). Not a target. Maybe a little better than a reach though.

WM likes good test scores. And they really, really like demonstrated interest. Did she tour, interview and do the “optional essay” (which is definitely not optional)? If so, it pushes her closer to target.


Yes she toured, interviewed, did both optional essays, met with the arts faculty, and was nominated for a scholarship.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 19:01     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Re scattergrams: Does target mean someone is on the line of average accepted SAT and GPA?


How do scattergrams help if a kid is TO?


Our school allows you to filter for TO.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 18:44     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Reach for OOS coming from your area.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 18:42     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would think Target. Test would help, but must be a reason you're excluding. Pricey OOS public


Good but not competitive scores (1350 SAT) due to diagnosed learning disabilities. Intellect and comprehension are high but processing speed is low. Scores don’t match grades so she chose TO. Hopefully submitting AP scores will help a bit.


Come on. How did she get 4s and 5s on the AP tests but a 1350 on the SAT? Slow processing would also apply to the AP tests. Perhaps she didn’t study enough for the SAT. I say this as a parent of 3 ADHD kids.


My kid was similar (and ironically, is going to W&M for grad school 👍)
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 18:34     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:Re scattergrams: Does target mean someone is on the line of average accepted SAT and GPA?


How do scattergrams help if a kid is TO?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 18:34     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
In state? Target. OOS and TO with only 8 APs (yes, I know, but instate kids with 10+ great grades and tests scores are being rejected). Not a target. Maybe a little better than a reach though.

WM likes good test scores. And they really, really like demonstrated interest. Did she tour, interview and do the “optional essay” (which is definitely not optional)? If so, it pushes her closer to target.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 17:03     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Re scattergrams: Does target mean someone is on the line of average accepted SAT and GPA?
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 16:59     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would think Target. Test would help, but must be a reason you're excluding. Pricey OOS public


Good but not competitive scores (1350 SAT) due to diagnosed learning disabilities. Intellect and comprehension are high but processing speed is low. Scores don’t match grades so she chose TO. Hopefully submitting AP scores will help a bit.


Come on. How did she get 4s and 5s on the AP tests but a 1350 on the SAT? Slow processing would also apply to the AP tests. Perhaps she didn’t study enough for the SAT. I say this as a parent of 3 ADHD kids.


SATs and APs do not measure the same things and rely on different skills. My DS did very well on APs as a demonstration of subject knowledge and comprehension versus SATs as a demonstration of test taking skills. Plus, learning disabilities are not the same thing as ADHD, so your kids' experience isn't as relevant as you think it is.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 16:56     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Target. Especially since she demonstrated interest. W&M admits students who want to go, and she looks like a good fit to me.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 16:48     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does your school's Navience data indicate? Better info than crowdsourcing.


Is naviance reliable for this? It lists W&M as a safety for my DC, and I didn’t think it could be a safety for anyone


I wouldn't focus on the labels. Look at the scattergrams from students who applied from your school.


For our school, the scattergram only shows acceptances and DC is above and to the right of those. Still, I don’t think it is a safety.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 16:35     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does your school's Navience data indicate? Better info than crowdsourcing.


Is naviance reliable for this? It lists W&M as a safety for my DC, and I didn’t think it could be a safety for anyone


I wouldn't focus on the labels. Look at the scattergrams from students who applied from your school.
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 16:30     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
Anonymous wrote:What does your school's Navience data indicate? Better info than crowdsourcing.


Is naviance reliable for this? It lists W&M as a safety for my DC, and I didn’t think it could be a safety for anyone
Anonymous
Post 02/05/2025 16:23     Subject: W&M Target or Reach?
I think reach. It's harder to get in OOS.