Anonymous wrote:Why are churches spouting of politics. DOJ should investigate and revoke their tax exempt status

Depends on the politics of the churches that are spouting off, right? Seems to me that Churches supportive of Trump don't have to spout off, because trump is spouting off for them, and churches not supporting Trump are the one who could lose their tax exempt status.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

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Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

You can’t even take a beat to LISTEN. Stop telling black people what to do. There is nothing stopping you from contacting a local congregation and asking if you can volunteer in support of their efforts and then doing exactly what they ask without telling them how they should do it differently.

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To the person who said black churches should invite allies--

Why don't YOU volunteer to make that happen? It's always easy to spout off from behind a keyboard about what others should do and how much more they should work or volunteer...Meanwhile, you are doing what exactly?

I agree that I need to listen. I can imagine that black religious people May feel Tired of leading the way.

Our church is involved in resistance and protection of vulnerable people who come to our sacred space for different ministries.

We have been working on becoming an antiracist church for years now and that does require much more listening.

I am sorry if my hopes for a broader faith based resistance alliance offended anyone.

But this would not work and is not needed because the concerns do not converge 100%. Some people have religious objections to LGBTQ and are advocates for the civil and social rights of African Americans. Some people really want our country to stop illegal immigration and want our country to allow in a smaller number of legal immigrants, if any at all, but are advocates for the civil and social rights of African Americans. In forming these fake alliances, some are alienated. Tagging on to the African American cause gives your cause legitimacy because how we have been treated is America's original and its worse sin--but can the fight for your cause stand as a legitimate one without us? Try it.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

There was never such a thing as a POC coalition and after the 2024 election the farce is over. African Americans are not mules for your causes.

It is not for altruistic reasons that different groups should work together (after the sting of the election has subsided or been overtaken by the pain caused by Trump.)

"The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Otherwise groups will be picked off one by one. So not bleeding heart compassion but strategic alliances.

Anonymous wrote:Why are churches spouting of politics. DOJ should investigate and revoke their tax exempt status

Now you want that when the DOJ is in your pocket.

Shut it

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

PP to whom you responded

Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

You can’t even take a beat to LISTEN. Stop telling black people what to do. There is nothing stopping you from contacting a local congregation and asking if you can volunteer in support of their efforts and then doing exactly what they ask without telling them how they should do it differently.

+1

To the person who said black churches should invite allies--

Why don't YOU volunteer to make that happen? It's always easy to spout off from behind a keyboard about what others should do and how much more they should work or volunteer...Meanwhile, you are doing what exactly?

I agree that I need to listen. I can imagine that black religious people May feel Tired of leading the way.

Our church is involved in resistance and protection of vulnerable people who come to our sacred space for different ministries.

We have been working on becoming an antiracist church for years now and that does require much more listening.

I am sorry if my hopes for a broader faith based resistance alliance offended anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

PP to whom you responded

Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

You can’t even take a beat to LISTEN. Stop telling black people what to do. There is nothing stopping you from contacting a local congregation and asking if you can volunteer in support of their efforts and then doing exactly what they ask without telling them how they should do it differently.

Fair point OK

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

PP to whom you responded

Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

You can’t even take a beat to LISTEN. Stop telling black people what to do. There is nothing stopping you from contacting a local congregation and asking if you can volunteer in support of their efforts and then doing exactly what they ask without telling them how they should do it differently.

+1

To the person who said black churches should invite allies--

Why don't YOU volunteer to make that happen? It's always easy to spout off from behind a keyboard about what others should do and how much more they should work or volunteer...Meanwhile, you are doing what exactly?

Anonymous wrote:Why are churches spouting of politics. DOJ should investigate and revoke their tax exempt status

They always have. That's why MAGA like you want to demolish them, and the Chinese hate religion.

Control, control, control.

Good luck trying to remove tax exempt status from the Scientologists. I can't wait to watch that one. I'd love to see what they do to Elon Musk.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

PP to whom you responded

Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

You can’t even take a beat to LISTEN. Stop telling black people what to do. There is nothing stopping you from contacting a local congregation and asking if you can volunteer in support of their efforts and then doing exactly what they ask without telling them how they should do it differently.

Word!!

Anonymous wrote:Do they know that a lot more black people voted for Trump in 2020?

Black women mostly did not. Some black men--in Georgia, IIRC--did along with others places.

And, of course, the GOP tried to prevent black people from voting at all.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

PP to whom you responded

Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

You can’t even take a beat to LISTEN. Stop telling black people what to do. There is nothing stopping you from contacting a local congregation and asking if you can volunteer in support of their efforts and then doing exactly what they ask without telling them how they should do it differently.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

PP to whom you responded

Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

The "POCs" who fought to end Affirmative Action didn't care about African Americans. They just want us to believe history began in 1968 and there is no need to right wrongs. They now say that people who think Affirmative Action is a tool to right historical wrongs are racist.

The "POCs" who want illegal immigrants to stay claim that illegal immigrants come from cultures that are "family oriented" and "work hard" unlike "some cultures (black) in the U.S. who have squandered the American dream".

We do not need to care about other groups impacted.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

PP to whom you responded

Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

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Should say not just OK but important

We are tired of leading the way and getting nothing out of it. The leading the way days are over.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

It is ok for African Americans to sometimes just talk about what is concerning us specifically. Even more so since lots of POCs (which really just means Asians, Hispanics, and Indians) voted for Trump.

PP to whom you responded

Yes of course - not just all but important.

I just hope they invite a coalition of faith bas d allies representing other groups also impacted. The politics of division and degradation of so many people hurts us all in different ways. I think we need faith based unity in confronting the hate and division espoused by white Christian nationalism - while allowing space for different coalition members to express how it impacts them and how they wish to resist.

I am grateful to black ministers for leading the way once again.

^^^
Should say not just OK but important

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Anonymous wrote:I agree with the theology of moral resistance in the spirit of Frederick Douglass and many other faith-based resisters to injustice. I agree that Project 2025 is an all-out attack on over 60 years of civil rights protection of African American and many other people in the U.S.

However, I hope they seek a broad interracial alliance as many non black people of faith are deeply opposed to the hate mongering and division and degradations of POC and non criminal migrants (most of whom are Latinos) and GLBQT+ people.

There was never such a thing as a POC coalition and after the 2024 election the farce is over. African Americans are not mules for your causes.

Members of various alliances resisting white Christian nationalism include:
The Society of Jesus’ (the Jesuits who are mostly POC)

Kairos Center for Religions, Rights and Social Justice

The Poor People’s Campaign

Milwaukee Inner-City Congregations Allied for Hope — MICAH, an interfaith social activism organization founded 36 years ago.


Progressive Faith-Based Groups Are Reclaiming The Faith From The Political Right Through Justice And Love
LAST UPDATED ON: NOVEMBER 21, 2023 AT 2:17 PM
NOVEMBER 21, 2023 BY JULIE NICHOLS

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/alltexansnotsometexans/2023/11/progressive-faith-based-groups-are-reclaiming-the-faith-from-the-political-right-through-justice-and-love/


https://religionnews.com/2023/08/11/christian-nationalisms-opponents-are-getting-organized/

https://www.axios.com/2024/10/07/christian-nationalism-opponents-trump

https://minnesotareformer.com/2024/07/15/on-eve-of-gop-convention-faith-leaders-warn-against-white-christian-nationalism/