Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:24     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
No. DEI is generally about immutable characteristics. Being a vet is about your work history. No one is born a vet.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:23     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Veteran status is often given preference, so yes. Like race and disability, they must be qualified first but yes, they will be given preference once that’s established.


When something is given preference, it doesn't automatically equate to DEI.

Someone may be given preference because they graduated college or HS with a high GPA. Or, they may be given preference because they have successfully managed people in another position. Or they may be given preference because they have experience with a particular software or system.
Lots of reason there is preference in hiring. Basing hiring on race, gender, sexual orientation, or other quality that does not equate to experience or merit is DEI.
You people are so uninformed.


You are uninformed. It’s literally called “preference” in HR. You may hate that it’s technically DEI, but it is.


If you really believe this, you don't understand DEI.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:23     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Veteran status is often given preference, so yes. Like race and disability, they must be qualified first but yes, they will be given preference once that’s established.


When something is given preference, it doesn't automatically equate to DEI.

Someone may be given preference because they graduated college or HS with a high GPA. Or, they may be given preference because they have successfully managed people in another position. Or they may be given preference because they have experience with a particular software or system.
Lots of reason there is preference in hiring. Basing hiring on race, gender, sexual orientation, or other quality that does not equate to experience or merit is DEI.
You people are so uninformed.


It's DEI.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:23     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:Military service is not DEI. The US military is incredibly diverse. Less than 50 percent of soldiers are white males. Whatever preference federal hiring may give to former service members, it's not because of their race, gender, orientation etc. It's simply a recognition of their service to the country and to give them a small boost as they transition into the civilian world. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If people are upset about it, they have every opportunity to serve themselves.


There’s nothing wrong with it all. It IS, however, giving preference and therefore no different than DEI.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:21     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Veteran status is often given preference, so yes. Like race and disability, they must be qualified first but yes, they will be given preference once that’s established.


When something is given preference, it doesn't automatically equate to DEI.

Someone may be given preference because they graduated college or HS with a high GPA. Or, they may be given preference because they have successfully managed people in another position. Or they may be given preference because they have experience with a particular software or system.
Lots of reason there is preference in hiring. Basing hiring on race, gender, sexual orientation, or other quality that does not equate to experience or merit is DEI.
You people are so uninformed.


You are uninformed. It’s literally called “preference” in HR. You may hate that it’s technically DEI, but it is.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:20     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:Military service is not DEI. The US military is incredibly diverse. Less than 50 percent of soldiers are white males. Whatever preference federal hiring may give to former service members, it's not because of their race, gender, orientation etc. It's simply a recognition of their service to the country and to give them a small boost as they transition into the civilian world. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If people are upset about it, they have every opportunity to serve themselves.


Great post.
Fact check: true
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:17     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


Also geographic diversity. Easier to get into Yale from rural WV, they literally lower the qualifications based solely on geography! That is the opposite of merit.


Once again, he graduated from Ohio State summa cum laude.

That probably had something to do with his acceptance to Yale.


That’s not special. Lots of people do that. My white UMC kid graduated with 2 degrees Summa Cum Laude and had a 99% lsat. Barely broke the T14. We live in a rich zip code. White UMC classmate with lower LSAT from a rural area in a state that sends few applications got into Harvard. That’s DEI. It stinks but I understand the logic.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:16     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


Also geographic diversity. Easier to get into Yale from rural WV, they literally lower the qualifications based solely on geography! That is the opposite of merit.


Once again, he graduated from Ohio State summa cum laude.
That probably had something to do with his acceptance to Yale.


I think you don’t understand how many people graduate from Ohio State or a similar level school summa cum laude and don’t get into Yale law. Being poor, rural, and a veteran all helped his application. You are talking about getting good grades at a mid-level state school, hardly a major factor for Yale law.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:16     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Military service is not DEI. The US military is incredibly diverse. Less than 50 percent of soldiers are white males. Whatever preference federal hiring may give to former service members, it's not because of their race, gender, orientation etc. It's simply a recognition of their service to the country and to give them a small boost as they transition into the civilian world. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If people are upset about it, they have every opportunity to serve themselves.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:15     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


Yes. Rural applications from underrepresented states get preference.


I'm thinking that graduating with dual undergraduate degrees summa cum laude would be the preference.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:14     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:Veteran status is often given preference, so yes. Like race and disability, they must be qualified first but yes, they will be given preference once that’s established.


When something is given preference, it doesn't automatically equate to DEI.

Someone may be given preference because they graduated college or HS with a high GPA. Or, they may be given preference because they have successfully managed people in another position. Or they may be given preference because they have experience with a particular software or system.
Lots of reason there is preference in hiring. Basing hiring on race, gender, sexual orientation, or other quality that does not equate to experience or merit is DEI.
You people are so uninformed.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:12     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


Yes. Rural applications from underrepresented states get preference.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:11     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


I’ve heard that he also used “economic diversity” because he was from WV


Also geographic diversity. Easier to get into Yale from rural WV, they literally lower the qualifications based solely on geography! That is the opposite of merit.


Once again, he graduated from Ohio State summa cum laude.
That probably had something to do with his acceptance to Yale.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:10     Subject: Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Veteran status is often given preference, so yes. Like race and disability, they must be qualified first but yes, they will be given preference once that’s established.
Anonymous
Post 01/31/2025 11:10     Subject: Re:Is being a veteran a DEI classification?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's how JD Vance got into Yale Law School.


Really? That's what you think?

You don't think that graduating from Ohio State summa cum laude had anything to do with that?


See, that's the thing about DEI - it's not that the people chosen aren't already qualified, it's that they get chosen out of a pot of qualified people because they make the class more diverse.

If you've read his book, you'd know that JD had trouble finding anyone like himself at law school.

Hope you've learned something.