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Anonymous wrote:Kids still can't read in second grade? What school district is this?

How do you think kids learn how to read? They are taught phonics. English has complex spelling patterns that need to be taught and this usually takes 3+ years (kindergarten through 3rd grade).

Yes they are taught phonics in pk3 and pk4 and they are reading by K or 1st grade

They shouldn’t be. Anyway, not all kids go to preschool so there shouldn’t be the expectation that they do. It’s not mandatory.

DCPS has free pk3-4 largely to supplement children who are not otherwise getting preschool or home instruction. So the expectation is there's some learning starting at 3

It isn’t mandatory so no, there shouldn’t be any expectations.

I mean if you want your kid to not read while the rest of the class is reading, go for it. But why would you do that to a child?

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Anonymous wrote:Kids still can't read in second grade? What school district is this?

How do you think kids learn how to read? They are taught phonics. English has complex spelling patterns that need to be taught and this usually takes 3+ years (kindergarten through 3rd grade).

Yes they are taught phonics in pk3 and pk4 and they are reading by K or 1st grade

They shouldn’t be. Anyway, not all kids go to preschool so there shouldn’t be the expectation that they do. It’s not mandatory.

DCPS has free pk3-4 largely to supplement children who are not otherwise getting preschool or home instruction. So the expectation is there's some learning starting at 3

It isn’t mandatory so no, there shouldn’t be any expectations.

Anonymous wrote:Our Annapolis private uses the phonetic readers from Jolly Phonics. They are maybe more interesting and readable than McGuffey.

I've heard decent things about Jolly Phonics.

My counterpoint would be that McGuffey becoming eventually more difficult is something of a feature, not a drawback. It is very helpful in making older literature more accessible, via providing background knowledge, exposure to complex syntax, and vocabulary. By the time you hit the 6th reader, you're at content as hard, or harder, than anything your child is likely to get in high school, and you would give your kid a leg up if you could get him even to the level of, say, the 4th reader before you run out of steam.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids still can't read in second grade? What school district is this?

How do you think kids learn how to read? They are taught phonics. English has complex spelling patterns that need to be taught and this usually takes 3+ years (kindergarten through 3rd grade).

Yes they are taught phonics in pk3 and pk4 and they are reading by K or 1st grade

They shouldn’t be. Anyway, not all kids go to preschool so there shouldn’t be the expectation that they do. It’s not mandatory.

DCPS has free pk3-4 largely to supplement children who are not otherwise getting preschool or home instruction. So the expectation is there's some learning starting at 3

Our Annapolis private uses the phonetic readers from Jolly Phonics. They are maybe more interesting and readable than McGuffey.

Victory Drill is good. Also agree All About Reading is good.

If I were OP I would be supplementing as school seems not to have a great curriculum.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids still can't read in second grade? What school district is this?

How do you think kids learn how to read? They are taught phonics. English has complex spelling patterns that need to be taught and this usually takes 3+ years (kindergarten through 3rd grade).

Yes they are taught phonics in pk3 and pk4 and they are reading by K or 1st grade

They shouldn’t be. Anyway, not all kids go to preschool so there shouldn’t be the expectation that they do. It’s not mandatory.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids still can't read in second grade? What school district is this?

How do you think kids learn how to read? They are taught phonics. English has complex spelling patterns that need to be taught and this usually takes 3+ years (kindergarten through 3rd grade).

Yes they are taught phonics in pk3 and pk4 and they are reading by K or 1st grade

Spelling list looks like it is focusing on -ar. School uses IMSE, which is OK, I think? The students with reading problems I know seem to do OK with it. (I have a very strong reader who I worked with at home when she was younger, so to be honest I haven't paid much attention to what's happening at school, reading-wise.)

Though it is a promising sign that she's sounding things out, instead of flailing, I do think that your child could really benefit from increased support at home. Important thing is to step back, to build confidence and fluency.

I liked Victory Drill, a clever fluency builder which gives assortments of words, not sentences, to sound out.

Mildred Kerr's "First Fairy Tales" is quite good for fluency, as is Coe and Christie's "Story Hour Reader, Book One" (I was not impressed with the rest of the series.)

McGuffey's Readers are not as engaging as the ones above, but they are much more structured, and it is possible that is what she needs. But if she does hit the wall: All About Reading is about as good as you can get at home without hiring an Orton-Gillingham trained reading specialist.

Can you work with her at home? I also have a reluctant reader, I noticed at the start of 2nd most kids could read at mid-2nd or above grade level. Either it clicked for them or a few had outside help (parents or tutors). I had to teach him to read, lots of practice and repetition.

Our public actually fades phonics instruction towards the spring in 2nd and it completely goes away in 3rd. They're assigned beginner chapter books now to read in class.

Anonymous wrote:OP here. These are helpful responses. We're in a DCPS school. Yes, it's UFLI. I'm just surprised that they're still on silent 'e,' given that the school keeps saying that, by 3rd grade, they need to "read to learn" instead of "learn to read." There are no spelling tests or homework. My kid is an OK reader--she seems fine, but she's resistant to reading anything besides graphic novels and she lacks fluency. For example, if I push her to read a page from a book that I'm reading to her, she reads it slowly, pausing to sound out many words, and she doesn't know many suffixes like "tion." I wonder if her fluency would increase if they moved beyond silent e in school.

The bolded is a red flag to me. That's not an OK reader in 2nd grade. What feedback have you gotten from her teachers? DCPS does iReady instead of MAP, correct? What have results from iReady shown? What did DIBELS show in K and 1st? You could always book an assessment with someplace like Kumon.

Looks like we're really behind: https://ufli.education.ufl.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/UFLI-Scope2.pdf

The chart above shows the UFLI curriculum for K-2. My kid is halfway through 2nd and they're on lesson 58 of 128. I'm curious to ask the teacher, but don't want to offend her.