Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 11:51     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of Arlington folks gonna be moving since they all just got fired from the DOJ/DOD/DHS


I have lived in Arlington for 25 years. I have never seen so many houses sitting for sale for so long. I saw an under contract the other day and got excited. Seems like no one is buying or even renting the $6500 places.


Agreed. I would be thrilled if duplexes or 3 row townhouses could be built everywhere- we already have these in Arlington and people would buy them.

The 4-6 plexes were a greedy overreach so well-off people could own rental buildings when we already have plenty of apartment rentals.


Yeah I think they tried to do too much too soon. If they had said “everywhere you can build a SFH you can now build two duplexes” (with the same lot coverage/restrictions as a SFH) it would have been a much easier pill to swallow.


+1

I think they should limit lot coverage and add tree protections for all new constructions.

Those are existing issues for SFHs, not just MM.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 11:40     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone in Arlington even care about this issue anymore?


Idk if we care but it's a factor for if we buy our move-up house in N Arlington or McLean (currently in 22203 where I have zero issue with density / MM - but I'd feel differently if we paid $3M in CC Hills). So we're watching it but won't get actively involved in any advocacy if that picks back up.

I can’t imagine any developer in their right mind bothering with this now after it has been reversed and stopped so many times at this point. I also don’t see the appeal for buyers to rent a one bedroom apartment in some place like CC Hill with no walkability or amenities or to buy a townhouse for more money than a townhouse in somewhere like Lyon village. Add to that the uncertainty in the tariff situation and it’s pretty much DOA.


I agree most developers have probably lost interest. But I get tired of the argument that there’s no appeal for multifamily housing in CC hill. Not all buyers are young couples or young professionals - what about the older NIMBYs in CC hill who no longer need 3 levels and 5000 square feet; single people who can’t afford a house but want a quiet neighborhood and easy commute to NW DC; or divorced couples who want to stay close by. Arlington isn’t only for 27-40 something family units
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 11:11     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of Arlington folks gonna be moving since they all just got fired from the DOJ/DOD/DHS


I have lived in Arlington for 25 years. I have never seen so many houses sitting for sale for so long. I saw an under contract the other day and got excited. Seems like no one is buying or even renting the $6500 places.


Agreed. I would be thrilled if duplexes or 3 row townhouses could be built everywhere- we already have these in Arlington and people would buy them.

The 4-6 plexes were a greedy overreach so well-off people could own rental buildings when we already have plenty of apartment rentals.


Yeah I think they tried to do too much too soon. If they had said “everywhere you can build a SFH you can now build two duplexes” (with the same lot coverage/restrictions as a SFH) it would have been a much easier pill to swallow.
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 09:25     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Missing middle finger
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 06:37     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of Arlington folks gonna be moving since they all just got fired from the DOJ/DOD/DHS


I have lived in Arlington for 25 years. I have never seen so many houses sitting for sale for so long. I saw an under contract the other day and got excited. Seems like no one is buying or even renting the $6500 places.
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Plenty of people are willing to pay more than that for a rental. I just rented my home for 7500 and it took one week with 6 showings and 4 interest.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 19:01     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of Arlington folks gonna be moving since they all just got fired from the DOJ/DOD/DHS


I have lived in Arlington for 25 years. I have never seen so many houses sitting for sale for so long. I saw an under contract the other day and got excited. Seems like no one is buying or even renting the $6500 places.


Me, too. Dreading to know what houses in my neighborhood will go for.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:58     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what's happening now that the appeals court gave the green light? Are developers moving forward with their 4-plexes and 6-plexes?


appeals court reversed themselves. MM illegal again


Oh no! There goes my dream of owning a $1.8 million duplex.


That's the price range of the three sets of duplexes now on the market that were built under EHO permits. The best you can do is the 6 plex near Washington Liberty High School that is being built as a rental. There are two 2 bedrooms units and four 3 bedroom units They are two level piggy back units and similar to piggy back condos nearby. That builder sued the County to complete the project and won.


I am thrilled that someone will pay 1.8M for a duplex in Arlington.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:50     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what's happening now that the appeals court gave the green light? Are developers moving forward with their 4-plexes and 6-plexes?


appeals court reversed themselves. MM illegal again


Oh no! There goes my dream of owning a $1.8 million duplex.


That's the price range of the three sets of duplexes now on the market that were built under EHO permits. The best you can do is the 6 plex near Washington Liberty High School that is being built as a rental. There are two 2 bedrooms units and four 3 bedroom units They are two level piggy back units and similar to piggy back condos nearby. That builder sued the County to complete the project and won.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 08:23     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lots of Arlington folks gonna be moving since they all just got fired from the DOJ/DOD/DHS


I have lived in Arlington for 25 years. I have never seen so many houses sitting for sale for so long. I saw an under contract the other day and got excited. Seems like no one is buying or even renting the $6500 places.


Agreed. I would be thrilled if duplexes or 3 row townhouses could be built everywhere- we already have these in Arlington and people would buy them.

The 4-6 plexes were a greedy overreach so well-off people could own rental buildings when we already have plenty of apartment rentals.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 07:47     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

PG is cheap they can live there
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 06:50     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:Lots of Arlington folks gonna be moving since they all just got fired from the DOJ/DOD/DHS


I have lived in Arlington for 25 years. I have never seen so many houses sitting for sale for so long. I saw an under contract the other day and got excited. Seems like no one is buying or even renting the $6500 places.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 06:27     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone in Arlington even care about this issue anymore?


Idk if we care but it's a factor for if we buy our move-up house in N Arlington or McLean (currently in 22203 where I have zero issue with density / MM - but I'd feel differently if we paid $3M in CC Hills). So we're watching it but won't get actively involved in any advocacy if that picks back up.

I can’t imagine any developer in their right mind bothering with this now after it has been reversed and stopped so many times at this point. I also don’t see the appeal for buyers to rent a one bedroom apartment in some place like CC Hill with no walkability or amenities or to buy a townhouse for more money than a townhouse in somewhere like Lyon village. Add to that the uncertainty in the tariff situation and it’s pretty much DOA.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 00:32     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what's happening now that the appeals court gave the green light? Are developers moving forward with their 4-plexes and 6-plexes?


appeals court reversed themselves. MM illegal again


Oh no! There goes my dream of owning a $1.8 million duplex.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 23:31     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

Anonymous wrote:So what's happening now that the appeals court gave the green light? Are developers moving forward with their 4-plexes and 6-plexes?


appeals court reversed themselves. MM illegal again
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 21:44     Subject: Is the missing middle fight over in Arlington?

There's no market for those homes. Builders don't want to touch it.