Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 11:55     Subject: Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They go to prison in their country.


They might be heroes in their own country because their country hates trump and the US.


Nope. Populist fascists are very “in” right now, globally. He tends to have a very positive reputation in developing and least developed economies, though most people there don't understand that he's corrupt and a convicted felon.

You're making up lies that hurt your own narrative.

"Hate the US" Really, also, no. Very few people hate the US, which has one of the strongest economies coming out of the pandemic. Many, many people would like the opportunity to work here. Many more just want us to be a good neighbor.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 11:46     Subject: Re:Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'll be deported after serving their sentences.


This is correct. I’m a prosecutor and this issue comes up frequently.

They’ll serve their sentence in whatever prison facility they get sent to. Either before or during that time, ICE will get a detainer, which is a legal request to the prison to keep the person in custody for a finite period of time after completion of the sentence to allow ICE to take custody of them. Once the sentence is over, if everything works correctly, ICE will take custody of the person and handle the removal process.


Wait - so they are not deported for many years? Whom are they deporting right now, then?


Correct. Those being deported now fall into a few categories: people convicted of a serious crime in their home country, defendants awaiting trial for a serious offense who are on release pending trial, and people who were convicted of a serious crime and served their sentence and released, but for whatever reason were not identified by ICE and deported while still in custody.

That last category is larger than you'd think. Sometimes it is an administrative error; that is, ICE doesn't get the detainer or there's some failure communicating the existence of the detainer to the prison facility. Sometimes ICE fails to pick the person up within the time allowed due to insufficient staffing. And sometimes sanctuary jurisdictions take steps to thwart operation of the detainer. I'm aware of at lease one instance in the last year where a DC Superior Court judge ordered a prisoner who was nearing the end of his sentence in a homicide case to be released directly from the courthouse, rather than the jail (which is standard), so that ICE would be miles away when he was released.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 10:37     Subject: Re:Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'll be deported after serving their sentences.


This is correct. I’m a prosecutor and this issue comes up frequently.

They’ll serve their sentence in whatever prison facility they get sent to. Either before or during that time, ICE will get a detainer, which is a legal request to the prison to keep the person in custody for a finite period of time after completion of the sentence to allow ICE to take custody of them. Once the sentence is over, if everything works correctly, ICE will take custody of the person and handle the removal process.


Wait - so they are not deported for many years? Whom are they deporting right now, then?


People who committed crimes, served their sentences, and are not currently incarcerated.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 09:54     Subject: Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:Everyone seems fine with deporting violent convicted felons but won’t this backfire? If I commit a crime and know that I won’t go to prison, then why would I hesitate to commit crimes if I’m a criminal. If I’m serving a life sentence for murder and then I’m sent home where I’m free, didn’t I just get out of jail free?

How will this serve justice for the victim?



The plan is that they will serve their prison sentences here, then immediately sent back to their country of origin upon release.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 09:50     Subject: Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:why can't we implement faster death penalty for heinous crimes committed by illegals? This would scare them in doing anything bad which is so easy to do now.


Because we aren't evil animals and believe in justice for all.


what justice now when we are getting screwed from crime and wave of illegals coming in? Also, how you think about providing justice to so many criminals that are illegals?
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 09:30     Subject: Re:Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'll be deported after serving their sentences.


This is correct. I’m a prosecutor and this issue comes up frequently.

They’ll serve their sentence in whatever prison facility they get sent to. Either before or during that time, ICE will get a detainer, which is a legal request to the prison to keep the person in custody for a finite period of time after completion of the sentence to allow ICE to take custody of them. Once the sentence is over, if everything works correctly, ICE will take custody of the person and handle the removal process.


Wait - so they are not deported for many years? Whom are they deporting right now, then?


People who overstayed their visa or people who entered without either visa or without following the asylum process (which allows for entry without a visa). And anyone else they can scoop up who happens to be in their way and fits the racial profile.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 08:49     Subject: Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:Everyone seems fine with deporting violent convicted felons but won’t this backfire? If I commit a crime and know that I won’t go to prison, then why would I hesitate to commit crimes if I’m a criminal. If I’m serving a life sentence for murder and then I’m sent home where I’m free, didn’t I just get out of jail free?

How will this serve justice for the victim?



It's not about justice, it's about whitewashing.
Anonymous
Post 01/25/2025 08:49     Subject: Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

It's standard procedure in most countries in the world to deport criminals after they've served their sentence. Same here.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 22:09     Subject: Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They go to prison in their country.


They might be heroes in their own country because their country hates trump and the US.


Brilliant. Maybe they’ll stop coming here.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 21:54     Subject: Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:They go to prison in their country.


They might be heroes in their own country because their country hates trump and the US.
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 20:24     Subject: Re:Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'll be deported after serving their sentences.


This is correct. I’m a prosecutor and this issue comes up frequently.

They’ll serve their sentence in whatever prison facility they get sent to. Either before or during that time, ICE will get a detainer, which is a legal request to the prison to keep the person in custody for a finite period of time after completion of the sentence to allow ICE to take custody of them. Once the sentence is over, if everything works correctly, ICE will take custody of the person and handle the removal process.


Wait - so they are not deported for many years? Whom are they deporting right now, then?
Anonymous
Post 01/24/2025 20:20     Subject: Re:Wouldn’t deporting criminals backfire?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:They'll be deported after serving their sentences.


This is correct. I’m a prosecutor and this issue comes up frequently.

They’ll serve their sentence in whatever prison facility they get sent to. Either before or during that time, ICE will get a detainer, which is a legal request to the prison to keep the person in custody for a finite period of time after completion of the sentence to allow ICE to take custody of them. Once the sentence is over, if everything works correctly, ICE will take custody of the person and handle the removal process.


Thank you for explaining the process