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Anonymous wrote:Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Has anyone ever asked an AO this?

yes. Ours (DC private) reflects the GPA at the end of junior year.

Thanks. My question isn't what the scatterplot reflects but whether colleges use the 7-semester GPA in RD admissions review.

Schools that have an ED1 round and an ED2/RD round (or just an ED round and RD round) always ask for grades for the 7th semester (senior year fall).

What ends up happening is that 9-11th grades are sent by the high school at the time of application. Then the f7th semester is sent when it's available.

So who knows how the colleges reviews things. The 7th semester is ALWAYS received separately. Do they somehow calculate it into the overall GPA? Do they view it as a separate data point? Do they never review it? Who knows.

While it's unclear to us parents, someone knows. Hence my asking the question.

Really, no need to be an a$$.
Nobody on here knows the answer to what you are asking. Each admissions office is completely different. Some may have the bandwidth to recalculate the GPA. Some may "look" at these grades. Some may reference them as a tiebreaker. Some may toss them outright.

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its different for every school. no standard policy.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Has anyone ever asked an AO this?

yes. Ours (DC private) reflects the GPA at the end of junior year.

Thanks. My question isn't what the scatterplot reflects but whether colleges use the 7-semester GPA in RD admissions review.

Schools that have an ED1 round and an ED2/RD round (or just an ED round and RD round) always ask for grades for the 7th semester (senior year fall).

What ends up happening is that 9-11th grades are sent by the high school at the time of application. Then the f7th semester is sent when it's available.

So who knows how the colleges reviews things. The 7th semester is ALWAYS received separately. Do they somehow calculate it into the overall GPA? Do they view it as a separate data point? Do they never review it? Who knows.

While it's unclear to us parents, someone knows. Hence my asking the question.

Really, no need to be an a$$.
Nobody on here knows the answer to what you are asking. Each admissions office is completely different. Some may have the bandwidth to recalculate the GPA. Some may "look" at these grades. Some may reference them as a tiebreaker. Some may toss them outright.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Has anyone ever asked an AO this?

yes. Ours (DC private) reflects the GPA at the end of junior year.

Thanks. My question isn't what the scatterplot reflects but whether colleges use the 7-semester GPA in RD admissions review.

Schools that have an ED1 round and an ED2/RD round (or just an ED round and RD round) always ask for grades for the 7th semester (senior year fall).

What ends up happening is that 9-11th grades are sent by the high school at the time of application. Then the f7th semester is sent when it's available.

So who knows how the colleges reviews things. The 7th semester is ALWAYS received separately. Do they somehow calculate it into the overall GPA? Do they view it as a separate data point? Do they never review it? Who knows.

While it's unclear to us parents, someone knows. Hence my asking the question.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Has anyone ever asked an AO this?

yes. Ours (DC private) reflects the GPA at the end of junior year.

Thanks. My question isn't what the scatterplot reflects but whether colleges use the 7-semester GPA in RD admissions review.

Schools that have an ED1 round and an ED2/RD round (or just an ED round and RD round) always ask for grades for the 7th semester (senior year fall).

What ends up happening is that 9-11th grades are sent by the high school at the time of application. Then the f7th semester is sent when it's available.

So who knows how the colleges reviews things. The 7th semester is ALWAYS received separately. Do they somehow calculate it into the overall GPA? Do they view it as a separate data point? Do they never review it? Who knows.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Has anyone ever asked an AO this?

yes. Ours (DC private) reflects the GPA at the end of junior year.

Thanks. My question isn't what the scatterplot reflects but whether colleges use the 7-semester GPA in RD admissions review.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Has anyone ever asked an AO this?

yes. Ours (DC private) reflects the GPA at the end of junior year.

Anonymous wrote:Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Has anyone ever asked an AO this?

Anonymous wrote:Our school only shows the last 3 years and only if at least 3 students applied. I'm surprised at how high some of the gpas are and wonder if the gpa is at end of junior year when kids actually apply or final end of senior year GPA.

We had an issue with this but in Naviance. It was pulling GPAs from a different system, the one that generated transcripts and report cards (like Infinite Campus but it was the private high school's own system). CCO said they were 6-semester GPAs, but I could see my older kids on the scatterplots at the point of the end-of-senior year GPA, not at the 6-semester GPA.

The high school also used the setting that showed data only if at least 3 students had applied or were accepted or enrolled. So, even if 5 students applied to a highly selective school and one or two were accepted, it would show the number that applied but show that zero students were accepted. You could see points of accepted students on the scatterplot, but no idea what year they were from. The data for highly selective schools were insufficient to be truly useful.

They switched to Maia and the settings the high school is using are equally vague. It really takes away from any possible utility. It would be helpful only extreme cases, where a school takes nearly everyone over a certain GPA, or gpa/score, or no one at all.

Also, GPA changes for RD. I don't know the extent to which colleges use the 7-semester GPA from mid-year (whether the college recalculates or takes it from the mid-year report) rather than the end-of-junior year, 6-semester GPA.

Anonymous wrote:Not accurate at all for ED

Agree. The ED results include kids who got in later (after being deferred or waitlisted) and not outright in ED. And recent admissions years have had a higher later of deferred/waitlisted admissions due to Covid uncertainty and last year's FAFSA debacle. So the ED stats weren't very predictive for ED this year. My DC and many others were deferred when their stats put them in the green zone. Time will tell whether they're admitted.

Not accurate at all for ED

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Anonymous wrote:Our school only shows the last 3 years and only if at least 3 students applied. I'm surprised at how high some of the gpas are and wonder if the gpa is at end of junior year when kids actually apply or final end of senior year GPA.

Check with your CCO, but my understanding for our school is that they are the final (sr year) GPAs, not the GPA at time of application.

I've had kids at two schools (this year and last) and in both cases it's GPA at the end of junior year. Regardless it doesn't matter as GPAs don't go up by much. My current kid had a 4.0 first semester and it bumped the GPA 0.01%.

Anonymous wrote:Scoir goes back 10 yrs at our school.

Can you narrow that range? 10-year-old data isn’t super helpful. Things have changed quite a bit just over the last 5, much less 10.

Scoir goes back 10 yrs at our school.

Anonymous wrote:Our school only shows the last 3 years and only if at least 3 students applied. I'm surprised at how high some of the gpas are and wonder if the gpa is at end of junior year when kids actually apply or final end of senior year GPA.

Check with your CCO, but my understanding for our school is that they are the final (sr year) GPAs, not the GPA at time of application.

Our school only shows the last 3 years and only if at least 3 students applied. I'm surprised at how high some of the gpas are and wonder if the gpa is at end of junior year when kids actually apply or final end of senior year GPA.