Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:18     Subject: RTO EO is up
Glad I got my popcorn early.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:17     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:We need opm to issue guidance stat


Or not so stat - let this play out a little

As we know most of the govt is not fully remote despite their 6 percent statistic
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:16     Subject: RTO EO is up
And what about agencies with existing bargaining agreements that include telework provisions? And what about Feds teleworking under reasonable accommodations? Those don’t seem impacted?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:16     Subject: RTO EO is up
So much delusion on this forum. It was like #5 EO he signed, before he even sat down at his own desk. RTO is definite.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:16     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting they only addressed remote work vs telework. What is it like 10% of people are remote? Seems like a small group to go after vs targeting TW.

I think that depends how you parse it.

take all necessary steps to terminate remote work arrangements and require employees to return to work in-person at their respective duty stations on a full-time basis--meaning require those remote work employees to return in person

OR

take all necessary steps to terminate remote work arrangements --end full remote work
AND require [ALL] employees to return to work in-person at their respective duty stations on a full-time basis

Either way, the "as soon as practicable," "allow necessary exemptions," and "comply with applicable laws" leaves a lot of discretion.


Can you explain the distinction between the two.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:16     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Remote work and telework are different


Can you explain this more? I am at USPTO and an online form says 100% at home is remote but other places say telework.


From OPM’s website:

In practice, telework is a work arrangement that allows employees to have regularly scheduled days on which they telework and regularly scheduled days when they work in their agency worksite. In contrast, remote work is an arrangement in which an employee, under a written remote work agreement, is scheduled to perform his or her work at an alternative worksite and is not expected to perform work at an agency worksite on a regular and recurring basis. A remote worker’s official worksite may be within or outside the local commuting area of an agency worksite.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:14     Subject: RTO EO is up
We need opm to issue guidance stat
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:13     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:Remote work and telework are different


Can you explain this more? I am at USPTO and an online form says 100% at home is remote but other places say telework.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:13     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Interesting they only addressed remote work vs telework. What is it like 10% of people are remote? Seems like a small group to go after vs targeting TW.

I think that depends how you parse it.

take all necessary steps to terminate remote work arrangements and require employees to return to work in-person at their respective duty stations on a full-time basis--meaning require those remote work employees to return in person

OR

take all necessary steps to terminate remote work arrangements --end full remote work
AND require [ALL] employees to return to work in-person at their respective duty stations on a full-time basis

Either way, the "as soon as practicable," "allow necessary exemptions," and "comply with applicable laws" leaves a lot of discretion.



Super interesting read! I didn’t even think of that.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:12     Subject: RTO EO is up
Phase one. DOGE is still a looming thrwatvb
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:12     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It clearly also applies to telework. How else do you interpret "employees to return to work in-person at their respective duty stations on a full-time basis"?


What does “to work” mean? They’ll be litigating this for years.


That's an absurd take. If employees try to challenge it in court by claiming the language doesn't cover them, Trump can just issue a new, clearer order.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:11     Subject: RTO EO is up
When will opm issue guidance on this one?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:11     Subject: RTO EO is up
Anonymous wrote:It clearly also applies to telework. How else do you interpret "employees to return to work in-person at their respective duty stations on a full-time basis"?


What does “to work” mean? They’ll be litigating this for years.
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:10     Subject: RTO EO is up
It clearly also applies to telework. How else do you interpret "employees to return to work in-person at their respective duty stations on a full-time basis"?
Anonymous
Post 01/20/2025 19:08     Subject: RTO EO is up
What is the difference between telework and remote work?