Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T50 using USNWR 2018 - pre TO, pre pandemic, and not the current methodology that places mobility over academics. To be clear I do not disagree with the institutional policies that promote social mobility, I just disagree that it should be part of ranking methodology.

2018?

Nope.

2017, Which is the last year without Social Mobility and DEI policies included.

All rankings since the 1964 Civil Rights Act are invalid.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actually the 2020 list is the best - right before the world went insane: https://www.collegekickstart.com/blog/item/u-s-news-world-report-posts-2020-college-rankings

This is the correct ranking

Wow. That’s it. Didn’t realize it was 2020. But makes sense.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of maybe former Top 50 like Tulane UMiami but oddly not northeastern, and GWU is near top 50

GWU has been trying to break into the T50 since the 1980s and is always coming up short.

They have plenty of programs ranked in the top 50. But who cares? It's an excellent university. That's all that matters.

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter because if you fall outside of the Ivies and non-Ivy top 10, you're the loser when playing the eliteness game.

You're a loser if you play the eliteness game.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you also talking about schools like Case Western, Tulane that are not technically in US News's t50 anymore?

Yes. When i say T50 im not thinking the latest USNWR. Im thinking historically T50 schools over the last 25 yrs.

In this case yes, Tulane is T50.

OP you got your answer from one anonymous poster.

And yeah, a couple of white dudes don't like social mobility.

We're done now.

Anonymous wrote:Are you also talking about schools like Case Western, Tulane that are not technically in US News's t50 anymore?

Yes. When i say T50 im not thinking the latest USNWR. Im thinking historically T50 schools over the last 25 yrs.

In this case yes, Tulane is T50.

Anonymous wrote:It doesn't matter because if you fall outside of the Ivies and non-Ivy top 10, you're the loser when playing the eliteness game.

Exactly. Although I would say T12-T15, with schools like UChicago, Duke, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, ND, Hopkins added to the Ivies.

I like the tier ideas. Does anyone really see that major of a difference in terms of "prestige" between WashU and Emory? Or BU and NEU? BC and Tufts? GWU and American? Miami and Wake? Tulane and SMU? USC and UCLA, etc.

It doesn't matter because if you fall outside of the Ivies and non-Ivy top 10, you're the loser when playing the eliteness game.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T50 using USNWR 2018 - pre TO, pre pandemic, and not the current methodology that places mobility over academics. To be clear I do not disagree with the institutional policies that promote social mobility, I just disagree that it should be part of ranking methodology.

2018?

Nope.

2017, Which is the last year without Social Mobility and DEI policies included.

You can go back 8 years if you want.

Life goes on.

Keep up.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:T50 using USNWR 2018 - pre TO, pre pandemic, and not the current methodology that places mobility over academics. To be clear I do not disagree with the institutional policies that promote social mobility, I just disagree that it should be part of ranking methodology.

2018?

Nope.

2017, Which is the last year without Social Mobility and DEI policies included.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think of maybe former Top 50 like Tulane UMiami but oddly not northeastern, and GWU is near top 50

GWU has been trying to break into the T50 since the 1980s and is always coming up short.

But its Elliott School of International Affairs is ranked #6 in the nation. If you get accept there, kudos.

Anonymous wrote:It's definitely flexible, since we're talking about US News here, which is crap to begin with. It would be nicer if DCUM could all use QS, THE or ARWU.

They are garbage rankings for undergraduate education. All of them.

The USNWR rankings have plenty of issues as well now that they include social mobility, FGLI, and Pell grants as weights. All things which have zero to do with instructional or student quality.

Anonymous wrote:Actually the 2020 list is the best - right before the world went insane: https://www.collegekickstart.com/blog/item/u-s-news-world-report-posts-2020-college-rankings

This is the correct ranking

Without any other qualifiers, I take “t50” to mean a school ranked in the top 50 of national universities or national liberal arts colleges by USNWR. Yes, that’s 100 schools, but the categories are distinct enough and all the schools close enough in educational value that I assume the broader meaning unless told otherwise. To me the more important question is which schools fit a given student’s needs and interests best.

Anonymous wrote:I think of maybe former Top 50 like Tulane UMiami but oddly not northeastern, and GWU is near top 50

GWU has been trying to break into the T50 since the 1980s and is always coming up short.