Compacted math 5th grade students took the 6+ test starting in fall of last year. Prior years, they didn’t make the switch until later (spring I think but def not fall), but regardless if your 5th grader was in 5/6 math his spring MAP would have been the 6+ test.

OP here. Thank you PPs.

I have no idea which test my kid took in 5th (DC was in compacted Math though). I will ask DC to take Khan course challenges and go from there. Thank you for the Aops links.

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Anonymous wrote:OP again - Do all kids regardless of advanced placement take the same MAP-M in 6th grade? Or does it vary depending on what track they are on - regular, AMP, AIM?

All kids in all grades take the same MAP test. There is only one test. The only difference is at what point in the range of questions / difficulty the student starts at. The student starts at the exact point where they ended their test the previous time.

OP here. Thank you for explaining. DC said something about a 6+ test? Does that mean all grades 6 and above take the same test?

And if my kid improved by just 1 point since Fall (Fall and Spring scores were same), doesn't that mean there is no improvement?

DC was in compacted Math in 5th. I guess DC took a different test then and got 260 and now its a different test ad still getting 260?

There is only one test. If it is 6 , 7, 8 just means they will be using grade 6, 7, 8 ranges for percentiles.

If the score increase 1 point over the last 3 tests then that means the kid didn't learn anything new over that time. They will start the spring test where they finished the winter test.

Please, please stop posting uninformed misleading garbage.

There are 2 different MAP tests for 3-5 and 6+, with different question banks. The scoring attempts to be seamless but that’s not truly possible, and there are large error ranges built into the scores.

+ 1. My kid is in 5th grade compacted math currently and this is the info the teacher gave at parent teacher night. The 5/6 kids took the 6+ test this year and will continue to do so. So that’s what your 6th grader is taking also. The regular 5 class took the 3-5 test. (FYI there’s also a separate K-2 test.)

What you don’t know, OP, is which test your kid took last year in 5th. If he took the regular 5 and now is taking 6+, you’d expect a drop or not much improvement. If he took 6+ both years, well, at least you know he is still scoring high. Even without much improvement he is still consistently high and that’s good.

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Anonymous wrote:What the title says - DC had a 260 in MAP-M Spring '24 in 5th. Then the same 260 for Fall '24. Now just 261 for Winter '24. DC is in an AIM class in 6th but said they found it easy while rest of classmates struggled. But now I wonder if DC is taking it too easy and not working hard enough? DC said there were questions about functions and circumference that they struggled with. What can DC do to improve? DC does IXL.

260?
Your kid is ready for algebra. Congrats!

Unless your kid studies algebra and geometry outside of AIM pre-algebra class, their score won't keep increasing.

Assign your own homework on Khan, IXL, or AoP/Alcumus

What would be a good starting point - just jump to Algebra 1 on Khan? Which is better - IXL or Khan? School is pushing IXL.

Khan is much better than IXL.

Try Khan prealgebra / 8 first, and if it’s too easy, move on to Khan Algebra 1 or AoPS Videos and Alcumus (highly advanced/enriched) prealgebra.

https://artofproblemsolving.com/videos
https://artofproblemsolving.com/alcumus

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Anonymous wrote:OP again - Do all kids regardless of advanced placement take the same MAP-M in 6th grade? Or does it vary depending on what track they are on - regular, AMP, AIM?

All kids in all grades take the same MAP test. There is only one test. The only difference is at what point in the range of questions / difficulty the student starts at. The student starts at the exact point where they ended their test the previous time.

OP here. Thank you for explaining. DC said something about a 6+ test? Does that mean all grades 6 and above take the same test?

And if my kid improved by just 1 point since Fall (Fall and Spring scores were same), doesn't that mean there is no improvement?

DC was in compacted Math in 5th. I guess DC took a different test then and got 260 and now its a different test ad still getting 260?

There is only one test. If it is 6 , 7, 8 just means they will be using grade 6, 7, 8 ranges for percentiles.

If the score increase 1 point over the last 3 tests then that means the kid didn't learn anything new over that time. They will start the spring test where they finished the winter test.

Please, please stop posting uninformed misleading garbage.

There are 2 different MAP tests for 3-5 and 6+, with different question banks. The scoring attempts to be seamless but that’s not truly possible, and there are large error ranges built into the scores.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again - Do all kids regardless of advanced placement take the same MAP-M in 6th grade? Or does it vary depending on what track they are on - regular, AMP, AIM?

All kids in all grades take the same MAP test. There is only one test. The only difference is at what point in the range of questions / difficulty the student starts at. The student starts at the exact point where they ended their test the previous time.

OP here. Thank you for explaining. DC said something about a 6+ test? Does that mean all grades 6 and above take the same test?

And if my kid improved by just 1 point since Fall (Fall and Spring scores were same), doesn't that mean there is no improvement?

DC was in compacted Math in 5th. I guess DC took a different test then and got 260 and now its a different test ad still getting 260?

There is only one test. If it is 6 , 7, 8 just means they will be using grade 6, 7, 8 ranges for percentiles.

If the score increase 1 point over the last 3 tests then that means the kid didn't learn anything new over that time. They will start the spring test where they finished the winter test.

OP here. This has me worried even more now. I do know that the teacher is going slow in class so all kids can understand. So besides supplementing on our own there is nothing we can do then?

DC said they struggled with functions and circumference questions. Is that usually in pre-Algebra or Algebra? Trying to figure out a starting point in Khan so DC can improve at least by Spring.

Don’t let the misleading PP freak you out.

There are +/- 7pt error bars on the scores.
Scores at the extreme high end are variable based on luck of the random question selection. Functions and circumference are algebra and geometry. Your child is far ahead of their class curriculum.

Take the Khan course challenges to quickly find a good level to study.

You can’t use Khan’s MAP test helper because your child is already above the highest level of Khan’s MAP test helper!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again - Do all kids regardless of advanced placement take the same MAP-M in 6th grade? Or does it vary depending on what track they are on - regular, AMP, AIM?

All kids in all grades take the same MAP test. There is only one test. The only difference is at what point in the range of questions / difficulty the student starts at. The student starts at the exact point where they ended their test the previous time.

OP here. Thank you for explaining. DC said something about a 6+ test? Does that mean all grades 6 and above take the same test?

And if my kid improved by just 1 point since Fall (Fall and Spring scores were same), doesn't that mean there is no improvement?

DC was in compacted Math in 5th. I guess DC took a different test then and got 260 and now its a different test ad still getting 260?

There is only one test. If it is 6 , 7, 8 just means they will be using grade 6, 7, 8 ranges for percentiles.

If the score increase 1 point over the last 3 tests then that means the kid didn't learn anything new over that time. They will start the spring test where they finished the winter test.

OP here. This has me worried even more now. I do know that the teacher is going slow in class so all kids can understand. So besides supplementing on our own there is nothing we can do then?

DC said they struggled with functions and circumference questions. Is that usually in pre-Algebra or Algebra? Trying to figure out a starting point in Khan so DC can improve at least by Spring.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again - Do all kids regardless of advanced placement take the same MAP-M in 6th grade? Or does it vary depending on what track they are on - regular, AMP, AIM?

All kids in all grades take the same MAP test. There is only one test. The only difference is at what point in the range of questions / difficulty the student starts at. The student starts at the exact point where they ended their test the previous time.

OP here. Thank you for explaining. DC said something about a 6+ test? Does that mean all grades 6 and above take the same test?

And if my kid improved by just 1 point since Fall (Fall and Spring scores were same), doesn't that mean there is no improvement?

DC was in compacted Math in 5th. I guess DC took a different test then and got 260 and now its a different test ad still getting 260?

There is only one test. If it is 6 , 7, 8 just means they will be using grade 6, 7, 8 ranges for percentiles.

If the score increase 1 point over the last 3 tests then that means the kid didn't learn anything new over that time. They will start the spring test where they finished the winter test.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What the title says - DC had a 260 in MAP-M Spring '24 in 5th. Then the same 260 for Fall '24. Now just 261 for Winter '24. DC is in an AIM class in 6th but said they found it easy while rest of classmates struggled. But now I wonder if DC is taking it too easy and not working hard enough? DC said there were questions about functions and circumference that they struggled with. What can DC do to improve? DC does IXL.

260?
Your kid is ready for algebra. Congrats!

Unless your kid studies algebra and geometry outside of AIM pre-algebra class, their score won't keep increasing.

Assign your own homework on Khan, IXL, or AoP/Alcumus

What would be a good starting point - just jump to Algebra 1 on Khan? Which is better - IXL or Khan? School is pushing IXL.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP again - Do all kids regardless of advanced placement take the same MAP-M in 6th grade? Or does it vary depending on what track they are on - regular, AMP, AIM?

All kids in all grades take the same MAP test. There is only one test. The only difference is at what point in the range of questions / difficulty the student starts at. The student starts at the exact point where they ended their test the previous time.

OP here. Thank you for explaining. DC said something about a 6+ test? Does that mean all grades 6 and above take the same test?

And if my kid improved by just 1 point since Fall (Fall and Spring scores were same), doesn't that mean there is no improvement?

DC was in compacted Math in 5th. I guess DC took a different test then and got 260 and now its a different test ad still getting 260?