Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 13:49     Subject: Re:Teacher criticizes Trump
I think it would be unethical to tell a lie or an opinion like "I think Trump is a Muslim who was born in Ukraine" even if that is your opinion.

I think is it ethical to state facts like Trump is a rapist, or Trump is a felon, or Trump sexually assaults women, or Trump created a fake university and has to pay millions in fines, or Trump has declared bankruptcy many times, or Trump incited a riot on 1/6 that cause injury and death to many people.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 13:34     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here.

It is 9th grade English class, not social studies. The kids were doing some kind of exercise where they had to explain why they admired somebody. The student in question chose Trump. The teacher started questioning him after he delivered his speech, asking how he could admire a person who XYZ and 123.


I'd call that on the line depending on the tone/approach. Answering challenges to your opinion seems like a reasonable part of the exercise, but it could become inappropriate.


Yeah, totally depends if everyone was asked follow up questions, or only this person, and how it was done.

Also depends if the kid’s opinion was something like “I admire Trump because he’s gojng to get rid of the Mexicans and ban all the Muslims.” If it were that I might refer the kid for hate speech but would also find it necessary to challenge that in the classroom. If the kid was like “I admire Trump because he never gives up, and soeaks his mind on difficult topics” that’s different.


This. I can't stand Trump. But fact checking is okay, opining is not.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 12:54     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here.

It is 9th grade English class, not social studies. The kids were doing some kind of exercise where they had to explain why they admired somebody. The student in question chose Trump. The teacher started questioning him after he delivered his speech, asking how he could admire a person who XYZ and 123.


I'd call that on the line depending on the tone/approach. Answering challenges to your opinion seems like a reasonable part of the exercise, but it could become inappropriate.


Yeah, totally depends if everyone was asked follow up questions, or only this person, and how it was done.

Also depends if the kid’s opinion was something like “I admire Trump because he’s gojng to get rid of the Mexicans and ban all the Muslims.” If it were that I might refer the kid for hate speech but would also find it necessary to challenge that in the classroom. If the kid was like “I admire Trump because he never gives up, and soeaks his mind on difficult topics” that’s different.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 12:45     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here.

It is 9th grade English class, not social studies. The kids were doing some kind of exercise where they had to explain why they admired somebody. The student in question chose Trump. The teacher started questioning him after he delivered his speech, asking how he could admire a person who XYZ and 123.


Entirely appropriate as long as the teacher is sticking to facts. It's actually all too easy to bring up uncomfortable but true facts about ANY President. And with Trump, it's like shooting fish in a barrel


That's true! 9th grade english is the perfect opportunity to do a fact checking exercise as well. The whole class could fact check the admiration points!
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 12:43     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:OP here.

It is 9th grade English class, not social studies. The kids were doing some kind of exercise where they had to explain why they admired somebody. The student in question chose Trump. The teacher started questioning him after he delivered his speech, asking how he could admire a person who XYZ and 123.


I'd call that on the line depending on the tone/approach. Answering challenges to your opinion seems like a reasonable part of the exercise, but it could become inappropriate.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 12:43     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:OP here.

It is 9th grade English class, not social studies. The kids were doing some kind of exercise where they had to explain why they admired somebody. The student in question chose Trump. The teacher started questioning him after he delivered his speech, asking how he could admire a person who XYZ and 123.


Entirely appropriate as long as the teacher is sticking to facts. It's actually all too easy to bring up uncomfortable but true facts about ANY President. And with Trump, it's like shooting fish in a barrel
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 12:42     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it unprofessional for a teacher to let students know her political views? Particularly, is it unethical for a teacher to criticize Trump when a student in the class is open about admiring Trump?


If you are old enough to spout off about politics in class, you are old enough to find out people disagree with you. Learning to handle disagreement is part of growing up.


Yes.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 12:40     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
OP here.

It is 9th grade English class, not social studies. The kids were doing some kind of exercise where they had to explain why they admired somebody. The student in question chose Trump. The teacher started questioning him after he delivered his speech, asking how he could admire a person who XYZ and 123.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 07:29     Subject: Re:Teacher criticizes Trump
* knowing that not everyone agrees with them
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 07:28     Subject: Re:Teacher criticizes Trump
Did she actually verbally disparage your kid?

No? Then your tender child can handle not knowung that not everyone agrees with them.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 07:26     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it unprofessional for a teacher to let students know her political views? Particularly, is it unethical for a teacher to criticize Trump when a student in the class is open about admiring Trump?


Did the teacher actually criticize Trump or correct some inaccuracies or disinformation or challenge an ignorant child who is probably spouting off admiration without knowing why they believe what they believe? What age are we talking about here?

More to the point, why aren’t you concerned about the child openly expressing strong political views in the classroom and why do you seem to believe those should go unchallenged.

I realize Hitler killed a democracy in 53 days, but the clock on the seditionist’s second term hasn’t even started yet. And we haven’t reached the part in our fasicist transformation just yet where it’s unacceptable to question our corrupt and evil leaders.

Just add the teacher’s name to whatever list you all are keeping for the purge.


That's my guess. If a student in class is commonly spouting Trump points particularly the ones against immigrants, other kids in the class may feel uncomfortable and the teacher should let the other kids know they don't agree. Staying silent in the face of that also sends a message.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 07:14     Subject: Re:Teacher criticizes Trump
I bet !! It's almost impossible not to !
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 07:12     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Buckle up buttercup! I will be reading ALL the banned books and I don’t give a g** d*** if Dear Leader likes it.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 07:11     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:Is it unprofessional for a teacher to let students know her political views? Particularly, is it unethical for a teacher to criticize Trump when a student in the class is open about admiring Trump?


Nope. You wouldn't complain at all if you had the same views. People everywhere are entitled to believe what they want.
Anonymous
Post 01/10/2025 07:04     Subject: Teacher criticizes Trump
Anonymous wrote:Is it unprofessional for a teacher to let students know her political views? Particularly, is it unethical for a teacher to criticize Trump when a student in the class is open about admiring Trump?


Did the teacher actually criticize Trump or correct some inaccuracies or disinformation or challenge an ignorant child who is probably spouting off admiration without knowing why they believe what they believe? What age are we talking about here?

More to the point, why aren’t you concerned about the child openly expressing strong political views in the classroom and why do you seem to believe those should go unchallenged.

I realize Hitler killed a democracy in 53 days, but the clock on the seditionist’s second term hasn’t even started yet. And we haven’t reached the part in our fasicist transformation just yet where it’s unacceptable to question our corrupt and evil leaders.

Just add the teacher’s name to whatever list you all are keeping for the purge.