Anonymous
Post 01/07/2025 18:38     Subject: Re:Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The reason food is packaged for takeout is so that the hygiene of the delivery person will not place it at risk.

We already have standards in place for wearings gloves and hair up. If they are not being followed, tell the manager or report it to the health department. Around here, the health department definitely inspects.

I reported an issue to the manager of one local bakery (staff member took my cash while wearing a glove, then handled food after without swapping gloves) and the manager was horrified and apologized profusely. People in food service are trained, usually with the ServSafe course, and they know better.


Maybe its just me but i feel better when all the food service folks are wearing masks and their hair is put away.


Same.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 16:31     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
I wish the hygiene practices of my Asian coworkers would follow from food service to the restroom. I’ve never seen dirtier hygiene practices in a restroom setting than from my Asian coworkers. Let’s just say, squatting is the preferred method - and it gets everywhere.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 16:01     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure it’s been researched and confirmed the Covid outbreak started from animals sold in a market in China. Oh, and bird flu. I don’t know that “Asia” is the epitome of food safety standards you think it is.


I’m still not clear on this. Sometimes I read something from some relatively authoritative source that says it was most likely from a wet market, then I read another that says it came from that lab. If I had to guess I’d say it was the lab given that the techs there were sick pretty early on.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 14:24     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
I think the scientists went to the wet market.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 13:57     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure it’s been researched and confirmed the Covid outbreak started from animals sold in a market in China. Oh, and bird flu. I don’t know that “Asia” is the epitome of food safety standards you think it is.


Lol. Still skipping the lab leak, are we?

Anyway, I have been all over Asia and rarely see food sanitation practices that meet those at a McDonalds outside wealthy areas of major cities.


It wasn’t a lab leak. Scientists saw it was most likely a market

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9874793/#:~:text=According%20to%20epidemiological%20studies%2C%20the,SARS%E2%80%90CoV%E2%80%902%20infection.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03026-9



Except for the dead scientists who said it was from their lab leak. Who spoke up right away. Except that.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 13:29     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This sounds like a solution in search of a problem.

Get your mysophobia under control, OP.


+1

Look at actual statistics, OP. Where do people get sick from foodborne issues? From veggies/food with listeria or e coli sold at grocery stores or sometimes restaurants. Not from servers not wearing face masks.


But it would make OP feel better. Isn't that a good enough reason for new regulations?
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 12:27     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Former food service person here.

They've actually shown typical use of gloves is much dirtier than hand washing. It's also significantly less safe to wear gloves in a potential burn situation, even in lab we would go bare handed when pulling glassware. A burn while wearing gloves is generally significantly worse.

Food borne illnesses are generally not spread through the air so masking doesn't generally increase food safety. Masks are for direct person to person transmission.

Every place I've worked has required my hair to be back and I've generally been required to wear a hat of some kid.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 12:21     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure it’s been researched and confirmed the Covid outbreak started from animals sold in a market in China. Oh, and bird flu. I don’t know that “Asia” is the epitome of food safety standards you think it is.


Lol. Still skipping the lab leak, are we?

Anyway, I have been all over Asia and rarely see food sanitation practices that meet those at a McDonalds outside wealthy areas of major cities.


It wasn’t a lab leak. Scientists saw it was most likely a market

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9874793/#:~:text=According%20to%20epidemiological%20studies%2C%20the,SARS%E2%80%90CoV%E2%80%902%20infection.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03026-9
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 11:03     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure it’s been researched and confirmed the Covid outbreak started from animals sold in a market in China. Oh, and bird flu. I don’t know that “Asia” is the epitome of food safety standards you think it is.


Lol. Still skipping the lab leak, are we?

Anyway, I have been all over Asia and rarely see food sanitation practices that meet those at a McDonalds outside wealthy areas of major cities.


+100000 I can't belive people are still thinking this happened at a wet market. I can't. It's like they've done zero research about the lab, what happened, who was funding the lab....


Have you looked into any of the genome information for the samples that were able to be taken and tested?


Have you ever been to a wet market? Hardly a bulwark of sanitation!!!
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 11:02     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Because 70M Americans don't want to be given any instructions on health standards. From vaccines to milk to wearing a mask during a pandemic.

They are also voting away our ability to have a safe food supply. So yeah, mandating more hair nets isn't going to happen when we are busy arguing if the sky is blue with 70M people who think it's red.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 10:59     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure it’s been researched and confirmed the Covid outbreak started from animals sold in a market in China. Oh, and bird flu. I don’t know that “Asia” is the epitome of food safety standards you think it is.


Lol. Still skipping the lab leak, are we?

Anyway, I have been all over Asia and rarely see food sanitation practices that meet those at a McDonalds outside wealthy areas of major cities.


+100000 I can't belive people are still thinking this happened at a wet market. I can't. It's like they've done zero research about the lab, what happened, who was funding the lab....


Have you looked into any of the genome information for the samples that were able to be taken and tested?
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 09:24     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure it’s been researched and confirmed the Covid outbreak started from animals sold in a market in China. Oh, and bird flu. I don’t know that “Asia” is the epitome of food safety standards you think it is.


Lol. Still skipping the lab leak, are we?

Anyway, I have been all over Asia and rarely see food sanitation practices that meet those at a McDonalds outside wealthy areas of major cities.


+100000 I can't belive people are still thinking this happened at a wet market. I can't. It's like they've done zero research about the lab, what happened, who was funding the lab....
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 09:21     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
If you start requiring your door dash driver to wear a mask, hairnet and gloves, good luck getting any deliveries. You’ll have to get you fat a$$ off your couch and do it yourself. Your food is packaged in several layers. What possible kind of contamination do you think the driver could do? This is a you problem. Xanax is your friend.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 08:49     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:This sounds like a solution in search of a problem.

Get your mysophobia under control, OP.


+1

Look at actual statistics, OP. Where do people get sick from foodborne issues? From veggies/food with listeria or e coli sold at grocery stores or sometimes restaurants. Not from servers not wearing face masks.
Anonymous
Post 01/06/2025 08:27     Subject: Why Don't We Mandate Stricter Hygiene Standards for Food Service Workers (and delivery) in the US?
Anonymous wrote:Pretty sure it’s been researched and confirmed the Covid outbreak started from animals sold in a market in China. Oh, and bird flu. I don’t know that “Asia” is the epitome of food safety standards you think it is.


Lol. Still skipping the lab leak, are we?

Anyway, I have been all over Asia and rarely see food sanitation practices that meet those at a McDonalds outside wealthy areas of major cities.