Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

I'd add Michigan, Berkeley, Indiana, Notre Dame, NYU, Vanderbilt HOD, and Cornell.

I would disappear W&L and Richmond.

Rice is a little new to a business undergrad. They have a very good econ department. But business is new. Looks like they are geared towards finance and management. But since it is so new, there is no placement track record.

Keep Richmond, delete W&L.

Add any Ivy that you do not already have on the list, and Stanford and MIT. Yes, I know those are not undergrad business programs per se, but there is more elite recruiting at those schools than Kelley, Emory, BC, etc.

If they’re looking long term into a PE or IB career, or even consulting, W&L is a much better choice. Richmond isn’t even on the map compared to W&L for business.

+2 Almost every kid I know that went to W&L recently is working in business and making crazy $$ only a few years out of school. Most are in NYC and a few in DC and Houston. Sample size of 5.

MIT, Cornell, Notre Dam, NYU are some of the top ones missing.

Anonymous wrote:OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

You can find that on College Board or just search “school” “outcomes” “major” I just posted asking for your kids stats and what kid wants to major in and do professionally. I just went through this with my son who is now an analyst with JPMorgan.

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

What does student want to study? Placement for what, specifically? What are kids stats?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

I'd add Michigan, Berkeley, Indiana, Notre Dame, NYU, Vanderbilt HOD, and Cornell.

I would disappear W&L and Richmond.

Rice is a little new to a business undergrad. They have a very good econ department. But business is new. Looks like they are geared towards finance and management. But since it is so new, there is no placement track record.

Keep Richmond, delete W&L.

Add any Ivy that you do not already have on the list, and Stanford and MIT. Yes, I know those are not undergrad business programs per se, but there is more elite recruiting at those schools than Kelley, Emory, BC, etc.

If they’re looking long term into a PE or IB career, or even consulting, W&L is a much better choice. Richmond isn’t even on the map compared to W&L for business.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

I'd add Michigan, Berkeley, Indiana, Notre Dame, NYU, Vanderbilt HOD, and Cornell.

I would disappear W&L and Richmond.

Rice is a little new to a business undergrad. They have a very good econ department. But business is new. Looks like they are geared towards finance and management. But since it is so new, there is no placement track record.

Keep Richmond, delete W&L.

Add any Ivy that you do not already have on the list, and Stanford and MIT. Yes, I know those are not undergrad business programs per se, but there is more elite recruiting at those schools than Kelley, Emory, BC, etc.

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

I'd add Michigan, Berkeley, Indiana, Notre Dame, NYU, Vanderbilt HOD, and Cornell.

I would disappear W&L and Richmond.

Rice is a little new to a business undergrad. They have a very good econ department. But business is new. Looks like they are geared towards finance and management. But since it is so new, there is no placement track record.

Anonymous wrote:OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

I don’t know the answer definitively, but imagine the outcomes for USC are strongly weighted towards the film, music, sports and entertainment business. Not so much of a Wall Street feeder.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

Career outcomes are one factor in the P&Q overall. P&Q also posts the list sorted by career ranking:
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/news/best-undergraduate-business-schools-of-2024/4/

Seems like Wharton Georgetown and Michigan Ross are the HYP of undergrad business then you have a solid second tier of about 10 schools that are roughly equivalent… or maybe Wharton stands alone and the next 10-12 are basically the same

UVA

Anonymous wrote:OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

This is impossible to answer cleanly. Some big employers have preferred schools where they hire more. Also some employers hire only within a region.

If you want to work in CA, go to a CA school. If you want to work in Boston, don't go to USC.

Wall Street and the top strategy consultancies are the ones where cross-school comparisons might be the most useful. But even then not very much. And do you even know what type of high-paying job your kid might want?

Here is a site that could help with that for finance and consulting.

https://www.theforage.com/

Try to find each business school's placement report and read it. That will be the best info you can get.

Anonymous wrote:OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

Career outcomes are one factor in the P&Q overall. P&Q also posts the list sorted by career ranking:
https://poetsandquantsforundergrads.com/news/best-undergraduate-business-schools-of-2024/4/

It is unfortunate that P&Q doesn't always get a response from certain schools, which then get left out of the ranking. It's those schools' loss, but it would be nice to have P&Q somehow find a way to include them anyway.

OP - what I would really love to see is a ranking list like what is on poets and quants but based on employment outcomes - even subjective - as opposed to garbage in garbage out data on class rank or national merit semi finalists. I mean, I can take the USNWR college rankings and just sort by the ones who have business schools too.

Does USC have better recruiting outcomes than BC or UVA? This I would like to know.

Anonymous wrote:Preferably people who are genuinely close to the situation… with an eye on placement…

Schools of interest:
Wharton
Georgetown
USC
BC
WashU-Olin
Emory
W&L
Richmond
Rice
CMU
and peers if I missed any

Good list for undergrad business.

W&L is a sleeper. New business school currently being built.

I'd add BU as well. Good undergrad business school.