Anonymous
01/01/2025 09:42
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:question is for this cycle - have any of your DC athletes (or your kids’ friends) gotten into one of the remaining Ivy TOs without submitting a score? naming the sport would help, as I suspect it’s more likely for basketball/football than cross country or tennis. Thanks DCUM!
No. I know athletes at Penn and Columbia. All required test scores of > 1500 before even being considered.
can you name the sport? and you may not know this, but what tier were they athletically -
Anonymous
01/01/2025 09:42
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Multiple ivy athletes have gone from our private with 1180, 1200, 1260, 1410, and they submit scores. The coaches want the scores! They have always allowed lower scores for athletes: the academic index for the team and the school is what matters, not the individual.
+1
See the same with athletes at our school for Harvard, Yale, Brown, Penn and Dartmouth.
Also know recruited athlete for Yale that did not submit scores. They committed last year as junior and never took the SAT.
But those kids are thriving - academically and athletically so it clearly isn’t an issue. No I don’t know their grades but couple have come back to our school to talk to current seniors and they all see happy and well supported at their schools. They are currently Freshman, sophomores, and juniors so clearly not washing out.
Also to the PP that said this season is done - that is not true. I know a senior who is doing 2 Ivy recruiting visits in January.
the reverse is true as well. I know a very good football player who has a 4.0/1560/top extracurriculars/height/size who hasn't been able to get an Ivy offer despite trying quite hard with recruiting camps, etc. Clearly the Ivies don't care too much about SAT scores or grades on their football teams because they are going with great football skill over very good football skill with top stats. He does have a ton of high academic D3 offers.
Anonymous
01/01/2025 09:37
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:question is for this cycle - have any of your DC athletes (or your kids’ friends) gotten into one of the remaining Ivy TOs without submitting a score? naming the sport would help, as I suspect it’s more likely for basketball/football than cross country or tennis. Thanks DCUM!
No. I know athletes at Penn and Columbia. All required test scores of > 1500 before even being considered.
Anonymous
01/01/2025 09:36
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:test optional does not exist for athletes in any T25
closed thread
DS just got in ED to a T25 d3 school as a recruited athlete. He was TO because his score was 70 points below 25th percentile. Strong transcript though
D3s are different - coach will always want to know the score then decide how to approach. I honestly think that Vandy is the only real TO inT20
Anonymous
01/01/2025 08:47
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Multiple ivy athletes have gone from our private with 1180, 1200, 1260, 1410, and they submit scores. The coaches want the scores! They have always allowed lower scores for athletes: the academic index for the team and the school is what matters, not the individual.
Wow, are they actually able to handle the work? What happens if they no longer want to play? 1180 is shockingly low for an ivy
You are so naive.
Anonymous
01/01/2025 07:29
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Multiple ivy athletes have gone from our private with 1180, 1200, 1260, 1410, and they submit scores. The coaches want the scores! They have always allowed lower scores for athletes: the academic index for the team and the school is what matters, not the individual.
Wow, are they actually able to handle the work? What happens if they no longer want to play? 1180 is shockingly low for an ivy
They push them into easy majors andin some cases make them take less courses per semester and catch up in summer! It happens all the time. None of these ended up bio/chem/engineering! One is urban studies, one is earth science, the others too new to have picked.
They have to be enrolled at least full time.
Anonymous
01/01/2025 01:04
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Multiple ivy athletes have gone from our private with 1180, 1200, 1260, 1410, and they submit scores. The coaches want the scores! They have always allowed lower scores for athletes: the academic index for the team and the school is what matters, not the individual.
Wow, are they actually able to handle the work? What happens if they no longer want to play? 1180 is shockingly low for an ivy
They push them into easy majors andin some cases make them take less courses per semester and catch up in summer! It happens all the time. None of these ended up bio/chem/engineering! One is urban studies, one is earth science, the others too new to have picked.
Anonymous
01/01/2025 00:55
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Multiple ivy athletes have gone from our private with 1180, 1200, 1260, 1410, and they submit scores. The coaches want the scores! They have always allowed lower scores for athletes: the academic index for the team and the school is what matters, not the individual.
+1
See the same with athletes at our school for Harvard, Yale, Brown, Penn and Dartmouth.
Also know recruited athlete for Yale that did not submit scores. They committed last year as junior and never took the SAT.
But those kids are thriving - academically and athletically so it clearly isn’t an issue. No I don’t know their grades but couple have come back to our school to talk to current seniors and they all see happy and well supported at their schools. They are currently Freshman, sophomores, and juniors so clearly not washing out.
Also to the PP that said this season is done - that is not true. I know a senior who is doing 2 Ivy recruiting visits in January.
Anonymous
01/01/2025 00:41
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Multiple ivy athletes have gone from our private with 1180, 1200, 1260, 1410, and they submit scores. The coaches want the scores! They have always allowed lower scores for athletes: the academic index for the team and the school is what matters, not the individual.
Wow, are they actually able to handle the work? What happens if they no longer want to play? 1180 is shockingly low for an ivy
Anonymous
12/31/2024 22:54
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:test optional does not exist for athletes in any T25
closed thread
DS just got in ED to a T25 d3 school as a recruited athlete. [i][b]He was TO because his score was 70 points below 25th percentile. Strong transcript though
But I don't think OP's kid is an actual recruited athlete
Anonymous
12/31/2024 19:07
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Only Princeton is still TO (for this year)
Anonymous
12/31/2024 18:50
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
My fiends son is a top football recruit. He is a sophomore and already has offers including Princeton. He has not taken the SAT and I don’t think they care what his score is.
Anonymous
12/31/2024 18:00
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Multiple ivy athletes have gone from our private with 1180, 1200, 1260, 1410, and they submit scores. The coaches want the scores! They have always allowed lower scores for athletes: the academic index for the team and the school is what matters, not the individual.
Anonymous
12/31/2024 16:34
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Anonymous wrote:test optional does not exist for athletes in any T25
closed thread
DS just got in ED to a T25 d3 school as a recruited athlete. He was TO because his score was 70 points below 25th percentile. Strong transcript though
Anonymous
12/31/2024 16:29
Subject: Test Optional athlete - Columbia, Princeton, Penn
Our kid was told 1350 at Harvard