Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 23:31     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:19 arrested in Colorado:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/us/aurora-colorado-apartment-kidnapping-immigration-gang-arrests/index.html

Remember when all the liberals tried to tell us the gang videos in the CO apartment complex before the election were fake news? They also tried to tell us all Venezuelan gangs didn't exist and that the real problem as a slumlord running the apartments. Lo and behold weeks later they now have to arrest 19 because of kidnapping.

Stupid media and liberals are so freakin' dishonest. Try blow smoke up our arses trying to tell us everything we can see with our own eyes is fake and doesn't exist. The US is turning into a 3rd world violent dump like Venezuela because Biden and the Dems opened our borders for the entire world. The have absolutely NO.clue who is coming in. The. They try to tell us everything is fine, nothing to see here.


Dishonest? BOTH of those things were true. Yes, there are gangs, but in the case of the apartment complex there was ALSO a shitty slumlord who tried to blame gangs when his tenants who weren't gang members complained about the crappy conditions and what is dishonest is trying to conflate everything into gangs gangs gangs and trying to deny the slumlord situation.

That said, so 19 gang members were arrested. Great. But now what, deport them were, and how, exactly - with "exactly" being the operative word here. Do you think we can just throw them out of a plane over Venezuela with parachutes or something? Do you actually think Trump will make some kind of an amicable deal with Maduro?


GITMO has some open cells now.


There's millions of illegals. GTMO doesn't have that may cells.

You people don't understand scale. You probably don't even understand that there were already 12 million illegals in the US at the end of Trump's term including the gangs that you seem to think only suddenly came on Biden's watch.


This post is about a subset of people here illegally. No one said put 12 million there. You people don't have any reading comprehension skills. I also don't care when they got here.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 20:57     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:19 arrested in Colorado:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/us/aurora-colorado-apartment-kidnapping-immigration-gang-arrests/index.html

Remember when all the liberals tried to tell us the gang videos in the CO apartment complex before the election were fake news? They also tried to tell us all Venezuelan gangs didn't exist and that the real problem as a slumlord running the apartments. Lo and behold weeks later they now have to arrest 19 because of kidnapping.

Stupid media and liberals are so freakin' dishonest. Try blow smoke up our arses trying to tell us everything we can see with our own eyes is fake and doesn't exist. The US is turning into a 3rd world violent dump like Venezuela because Biden and the Dems opened our borders for the entire world. The have absolutely NO.clue who is coming in. The. They try to tell us everything is fine, nothing to see here.


Dishonest? BOTH of those things were true. Yes, there are gangs, but in the case of the apartment complex there was ALSO a shitty slumlord who tried to blame gangs when his tenants who weren't gang members complained about the crappy conditions and what is dishonest is trying to conflate everything into gangs gangs gangs and trying to deny the slumlord situation.

That said, so 19 gang members were arrested. Great. But now what, deport them were, and how, exactly - with "exactly" being the operative word here. Do you think we can just throw them out of a plane over Venezuela with parachutes or something? Do you actually think Trump will make some kind of an amicable deal with Maduro?


GITMO has some open cells now.


There's millions of illegals. GTMO doesn't have that may cells.

You people don't understand scale. You probably don't even understand that there were already 12 million illegals in the US at the end of Trump's term including the gangs that you seem to think only suddenly came on Biden's watch.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 18:01     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:19 arrested in Colorado:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/us/aurora-colorado-apartment-kidnapping-immigration-gang-arrests/index.html

Remember when all the liberals tried to tell us the gang videos in the CO apartment complex before the election were fake news? They also tried to tell us all Venezuelan gangs didn't exist and that the real problem as a slumlord running the apartments. Lo and behold weeks later they now have to arrest 19 because of kidnapping.

Stupid media and liberals are so freakin' dishonest. Try blow smoke up our arses trying to tell us everything we can see with our own eyes is fake and doesn't exist. The US is turning into a 3rd world violent dump like Venezuela because Biden and the Dems opened our borders for the entire world. The have absolutely NO.clue who is coming in. The. They try to tell us everything is fine, nothing to see here.


Dishonest? BOTH of those things were true. Yes, there are gangs, but in the case of the apartment complex there was ALSO a shitty slumlord who tried to blame gangs when his tenants who weren't gang members complained about the crappy conditions and what is dishonest is trying to conflate everything into gangs gangs gangs and trying to deny the slumlord situation.

That said, so 19 gang members were arrested. Great. But now what, deport them were, and how, exactly - with "exactly" being the operative word here. Do you think we can just throw them out of a plane over Venezuela with parachutes or something? Do you actually think Trump will make some kind of an amicable deal with Maduro?


GITMO has some open cells now.
Anonymous
Post 01/08/2025 14:57     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:19 arrested in Colorado:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/us/aurora-colorado-apartment-kidnapping-immigration-gang-arrests/index.html

Remember when all the liberals tried to tell us the gang videos in the CO apartment complex before the election were fake news? They also tried to tell us all Venezuelan gangs didn't exist and that the real problem as a slumlord running the apartments. Lo and behold weeks later they now have to arrest 19 because of kidnapping.

Stupid media and liberals are so freakin' dishonest. Try blow smoke up our arses trying to tell us everything we can see with our own eyes is fake and doesn't exist. The US is turning into a 3rd world violent dump like Venezuela because Biden and the Dems opened our borders for the entire world. The have absolutely NO.clue who is coming in. The. They try to tell us everything is fine, nothing to see here.


Dishonest? BOTH of those things were true. Yes, there are gangs, but in the case of the apartment complex there was ALSO a shitty slumlord who tried to blame gangs when his tenants who weren't gang members complained about the crappy conditions and what is dishonest is trying to conflate everything into gangs gangs gangs and trying to deny the slumlord situation.

That said, so 19 gang members were arrested. Great. But now what, deport them were, and how, exactly - with "exactly" being the operative word here. Do you think we can just throw them out of a plane over Venezuela with parachutes or something? Do you actually think Trump will make some kind of an amicable deal with Maduro?

Anonymous
Post 12/30/2024 12:45     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Yes it is. Tenth amendment says so.
Anonymous
Post 12/30/2024 02:50     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:One of the important factors that people are overlooking is that this is Venezuelan on Venezuelan crime, and that they are targeting and extorting undocumented immigrants because they know they are hesitant to speak with authorities for fear of their own deportation. This is one of the reasons why we need comprehensive immigration reform - our system of allowing millions of people to remain undocumented perpetuates crime in those communities, including violence and human trafficking.


Or toss them all out and let them sort it out amongst themselves in Venezuela.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 23:45     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:Much like ANTIF, Tren de Aragua does not actually exist.

It’s just another MAGA-fabrication meant to try to damage President Bidens handling of the border, and by the way, border crossings are way down.


https://www.dhs.gov/hsi/news/2024/11/01/tren-de-aragua-gang-members-wanted-murder-north-texas-arrested

So DHS is “gaslighting” people about a gang?
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 22:06     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:19 arrested in Colorado:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/us/aurora-colorado-apartment-kidnapping-immigration-gang-arrests/index.html

Remember when all the liberals tried to tell us the gang videos in the CO apartment complex before the election were fake news? They also tried to tell us all Venezuelan gangs didn't exist and that the real problem as a slumlord running the apartments. Lo and behold weeks later they now have to arrest 19 because of kidnapping.

Stupid media and liberals are so freakin' dishonest. Try blow smoke up our arses trying to tell us everything we can see with our own eyes is fake and doesn't exist. The US is turning into a 3rd world violent dump like Venezuela because Biden and the Dems opened our borders for the entire world. The have absolutely NO.clue who is coming in. The. They try to tell us everything is fine, nothing to see here.


This ^^. The gaslighting from the left has got to stop. The border, gangs in the U.S., Biden’s cognitive decline - these people have proven over and over that they cannot be trusted to tell the truth.


A lot more than 19 people were involved in the violent attack on the US Capitol on January 6th but you all gaslight us and pretend nothing happened. You cannot be trusted to tell the truth.


It's astounding that the right wing carries on about gaslighting, yet gaslighting is core to their own strategy. They have been gaslighting us for years now - about J6, about Trump's dementia and his blatant disregard of laws and norms, and so much else. They even gaslight Dems about what the Dems own positions are.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 21:15     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:One of the important factors that people are overlooking is that this is Venezuelan on Venezuelan crime, and that they are targeting and extorting undocumented immigrants because they know they are hesitant to speak with authorities for fear of their own deportation. This is one of the reasons why we need comprehensive immigration reform - our system of allowing millions of people to remain undocumented perpetuates crime in those communities, including violence and human trafficking.


Laken Riley was allegedly killed by a Tren de Aragua member, so not just Venezuelan victims. Info is from a Telemundo article linked in the OP's wikipedia link.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 19:48     Subject: Tren de Aragua

One of the important factors that people are overlooking is that this is Venezuelan on Venezuelan crime, and that they are targeting and extorting undocumented immigrants because they know they are hesitant to speak with authorities for fear of their own deportation. This is one of the reasons why we need comprehensive immigration reform - our system of allowing millions of people to remain undocumented perpetuates crime in those communities, including violence and human trafficking.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 19:34     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:19 arrested in Colorado:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/us/aurora-colorado-apartment-kidnapping-immigration-gang-arrests/index.html

Remember when all the liberals tried to tell us the gang videos in the CO apartment complex before the election were fake news? They also tried to tell us all Venezuelan gangs didn't exist and that the real problem as a slumlord running the apartments. Lo and behold weeks later they now have to arrest 19 because of kidnapping.

Stupid media and liberals are so freakin' dishonest. Try blow smoke up our arses trying to tell us everything we can see with our own eyes is fake and doesn't exist. The US is turning into a 3rd world violent dump like Venezuela because Biden and the Dems opened our borders for the entire world. The have absolutely NO.clue who is coming in. The. They try to tell us everything is fine, nothing to see here.


This ^^. The gaslighting from the left has got to stop. The border, gangs in the U.S., Biden’s cognitive decline - these people have proven over and over that they cannot be trusted to tell the truth.


A lot more than 19 people were involved in the violent attack on the US Capitol on January 6th but you all gaslight us and pretend nothing happened. You cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 17:41     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:Much like ANTIF, Tren de Aragua does not actually exist.

It’s just another MAGA-fabrication meant to try to damage President Bidens handling of the border, and by the way, border crossings are way down.


Perfect example of more liberal gaslighting. “Antifa doesn’t exist!” How could I forget about that one.

And why are border crossings finally down? Because Biden stopped gaslighting about being “unable” to do anything about it, and wrote an EO. During an election year, of course.

Do keep up your gaslighting though. It’s really worked out well for Democrats.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 17:38     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:19 arrested in Colorado:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/18/us/aurora-colorado-apartment-kidnapping-immigration-gang-arrests/index.html

Remember when all the liberals tried to tell us the gang videos in the CO apartment complex before the election were fake news? They also tried to tell us all Venezuelan gangs didn't exist and that the real problem as a slumlord running the apartments. Lo and behold weeks later they now have to arrest 19 because of kidnapping.

Stupid media and liberals are so freakin' dishonest. Try blow smoke up our arses trying to tell us everything we can see with our own eyes is fake and doesn't exist. The US is turning into a 3rd world violent dump like Venezuela because Biden and the Dems opened our borders for the entire world. The have absolutely NO.clue who is coming in. The. They try to tell us everything is fine, nothing to see here.


This ^^. The gaslighting from the left has got to stop. The border, gangs in the U.S., Biden’s cognitive decline - these people have proven over and over that they cannot be trusted to tell the truth.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 11:12     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Anonymous wrote:Much like ANTIF, Tren de Aragua does not actually exist.

It’s just another MAGA-fabrication meant to try to damage President Bidens handling of the border, and by the way, border crossings are way down.


Get back on your medication.
Anonymous
Post 12/29/2024 00:53     Subject: Tren de Aragua

Nothing ever stopped ICE from arresting Tren de Aragua members before - they seem to want to sit around and let local cops arrest them first and then demand they be handed over, as if local cops are supposed to be doing ICE's job for them.