Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 20:35     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:Was he one of those Muslims who voted for Trump?


As an Egyptian national? He's almost certainly here on a student visa.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 10:49     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:So he was already in deportation proceedings? Guess he came here as a young teen and couldn’t get asylum or f1 status?

Sounds like the fbi has been keeping a close eye on him, which is exactly their job. We probably should not let deportation orders drag on so long. He may have felt like he had nothing left to lose.

Agree 100% It is not compassionate to have long deportation proceedings. Nor is it compassionate to allow people who cross illegally to get settled with jobs despite needing to be deported later, just because they claim asylum.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 10:18     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

So he was already in deportation proceedings? Guess he came here as a young teen and couldn’t get asylum or f1 status?

Sounds like the fbi has been keeping a close eye on him, which is exactly their job. We probably should not let deportation orders drag on so long. He may have felt like he had nothing left to lose.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 10:07     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Was he one of those Muslims who voted for Trump?
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 08:52     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote: Only 18 years old!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/12/19/gmu-student-charged-plotting-attack/
https://nypost.com/2024/12/19/us-news/george-mason-freshman-18-busted-for-plotting-attack-on-israels-nyc-consulate-as-he-was-facing-possible-deportation/


This is horrible, but I’m oddly comforted that they discovered his plan. It means we’re doing something right if we can find out about something like this in the early planning stages.

Not that we’ll ever catch everything, but let’s nab as many of these evil people as we can.

I get 18 year olds having strong and emotional political beliefs as newly minted adults, but at most they march around a campus or sleep in a tent or write a social media diatribe. Planning mass murder is awful and better we caught him now.
Anonymous
Post 12/21/2024 08:47     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Most of these terror plots are undercover agents baiting morons into doing stupid things.


Hardly. The bad actors are monitored, they indict themselves without prodding, which would be entrapment and lead to a declination to prosecute.

They usually end up being pathetic, vulnerable people with mental defects. Because they are so easily baited into terrorism they obviously need to be put away, but most of this stuff is lonely losers thinking they found love online and then getting enticed to make incriminating statements.


Except that low-IQ people can do and kill people, so even though it's sad that they get swept into terrorism online... they still have to be treated like the criminals they are.

I wish we treated our criminals differently, though. Conditions in most prisons in the world are barely humane, even in developed countries, and most criminals are low IQ and/or psychiatric cases (I include severe and untreated ADHD, depression, anxiety, and addicts in that list). The larger question is how to stop people who suffer from neurodivergence that comes with a higher risk of aggression?


The reality is that rehabilitation does not work and there is no effective way to meaningfully reduce the risk of violent behavior among these populations. The only effective way to reduce the risk of these anti-social people harming the general public is incarceration.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 13:56     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

If you can be baited into doing something like this, your brain is broken.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 13:52     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most of these terror plots are undercover agents baiting morons into doing stupid things.


Hardly. The bad actors are monitored, they indict themselves without prodding, which would be entrapment and lead to a declination to prosecute.

They usually end up being pathetic, vulnerable people with mental defects. Because they are so easily baited into terrorism they obviously need to be put away, but most of this stuff is lonely losers thinking they found love online and then getting enticed to make incriminating statements.


Not really. Most are people with fundamentalist Islamist beliefs, susceptible to radicalization, encouraged by actors overseas who stay comfortably out of reach of easy prosecution. They are deliberate actors who are capable of independent thought, not dupes, even if not particularly intelligent or thoughtful. They are, however, evil.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 13:43     Subject: Re:GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/12/18/troubling-pro-terror-ties-dc-area-university-students/
Three of its (GMU) students, ... have had recent run-ins with the police over weapons and pro-terror material...



Yes and all 3 were commuter students. Where and how were they radicalized in northern Virginia?


Fairfax county is a sanctuary city and they got lots of mosques all over Bailey's cross roads. If you walk around there it looks like a different country or El Salvadorian and Arabs


America is a melting pot. The country has always been a sanctuary.

I believe these students are natural born citizens. They are as American as you.


The student in the article is an Egyptian citizen currently in deportation proceedings.



P’shaw! He’s just here committing the terrorism Americans are too lazy to commit themselves!


Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 13:17     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most of these terror plots are undercover agents baiting morons into doing stupid things.


Hardly. The bad actors are monitored, they indict themselves without prodding, which would be entrapment and lead to a declination to prosecute.

They usually end up being pathetic, vulnerable people with mental defects. Because they are so easily baited into terrorism they obviously need to be put away, but most of this stuff is lonely losers thinking they found love online and then getting enticed to make incriminating statements.


Well that can't be good for GMU's reputation.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 13:10     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Most of these terror plots are undercover agents baiting morons into doing stupid things.


Hardly. The bad actors are monitored, they indict themselves without prodding, which would be entrapment and lead to a declination to prosecute.

They usually end up being pathetic, vulnerable people with mental defects. Because they are so easily baited into terrorism they obviously need to be put away, but most of this stuff is lonely losers thinking they found love online and then getting enticed to make incriminating statements.


Except that low-IQ people can do and kill people, so even though it's sad that they get swept into terrorism online... they still have to be treated like the criminals they are.

I wish we treated our criminals differently, though. Conditions in most prisons in the world are barely humane, even in developed countries, and most criminals are low IQ and/or psychiatric cases (I include severe and untreated ADHD, depression, anxiety, and addicts in that list). The larger question is how to stop people who suffer from neurodivergence that comes with a higher risk of aggression?
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 13:00     Subject: Re:GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/12/18/troubling-pro-terror-ties-dc-area-university-students/
Three of its (GMU) students, ... have had recent run-ins with the police over weapons and pro-terror material...



Yes and all 3 were commuter students. Where and how were they radicalized in northern Virginia?


Fairfax county is a sanctuary city and they got lots of mosques all over Bailey's cross roads. If you walk around there it looks like a different country or El Salvadorian and Arabs


America is a melting pot. The country has always been a sanctuary.

I believe these students are natural born citizens. They are as American as you.


The student in the article is an Egyptian citizen currently in deportation proceedings.



P’shaw! He’s just here committing the terrorism Americans are too lazy to commit themselves!
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 12:36     Subject: Re:GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.dailysignal.com/2024/12/18/troubling-pro-terror-ties-dc-area-university-students/
Three of its (GMU) students, ... have had recent run-ins with the police over weapons and pro-terror material...



Yes and all 3 were commuter students. Where and how were they radicalized in northern Virginia?


Fairfax county is a sanctuary city and they got lots of mosques all over Bailey's cross roads. If you walk around there it looks like a different country or El Salvadorian and Arabs


America is a melting pot. The country has always been a sanctuary.

I believe these students are natural born citizens. They are as American as you.


The student in the article is an Egyptian citizen currently in deportation proceedings.
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 12:23     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Can't wait for Trump to deport all of these foreign criminals
Anonymous
Post 12/20/2024 12:11     Subject: GMU Freshman charged in terror plot against Israel's NYC Consulate

Anonymous wrote:Most of these terror plots are undercover agents baiting morons into doing stupid things.


Agents getting lazy and don't even want to have to travel to instigate some plot.