Why does it matter if the math is done in a lined notebook?

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Anonymous wrote:DC is in 10th grade in a magnet school in the South. Kids in this school came from all over the state.

In an engineering class they had to do a session on educating students how to use a ruler and a protractor. It turns out, many kids didn’t know what a protractor was or how to use the ruler correctly.

I remember that DC had lined notebook in math throughout the entire 10 grades.

I’m an immigrant and in Eastern Europe we learned how to use rulers in 1st grade and protractor in 4th grade.

American education is a joke.

Well, at least our kids are learning all about calling people by their proper pronouns.

And Eastern Europeans are way behind in drag queen appreciation.

If we can all agree that some Americans have gone too woke, many Eastern European countries are disgustingly intolerant of LGBT people, particularly if we’re talking about Russia, and shouldn’t really be lecturing anyone about anything.

Belarus and Moldova quickly come to mind. Some Eastern European countries are doing ok but some are still a mess.

Anonymous wrote:DC is in 10th grade in a magnet school in the South. Kids in this school came from all over the state.

In an engineering class they had to do a session on educating students how to use a ruler and a protractor. It turns out, many kids didn’t know what a protractor was or how to use the ruler correctly.

I remember that DC had lined notebook in math throughout the entire 10 grades.

I’m an immigrant and in Eastern Europe we learned how to use rulers in 1st grade and protractor in 4th grade.

American education is a joke.

I went to a magnet school in EE. Even though only the best kids in the county got into the school, we still had big differences in prior education we had received.
My friend had to catch up with her German and another classmate in English. My reading and writing sucked and they still do.
We all turned out fine. The kids in your child's class will be fine. They know things your kid doesn't know.
The good thing about EE right now is that some of the old teachers are still teaching. While they follow the new curriculum, they also add some old things they find necessary.
These teachers will be gone soon. Nobody wants to become a teacher because of low pay.
Just wait for it, and check the PISA for the changes. What's the ranking of your EE country in 2022?

Anonymous wrote:I think they're afraid the children will stab each other with compasses in the restorative justice circles, requiring even more restorative justice circles.

If I had fewer children or more energy, I would've been able to supplement them up to the standards of the 1980s/1990s publics, but as it is I threw in the towel and sent them to private. With less money, it would've been homeschooling.

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Our public education system is circling the drain, but school boards only want to shovel more $$ into the furnace of DEI.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is in 10th grade in a magnet school in the South. Kids in this school came from all over the state.

In an engineering class they had to do a session on educating students how to use a ruler and a protractor. It turns out, many kids didn’t know what a protractor was or how to use the ruler correctly.

I remember that DC had lined notebook in math throughout the entire 10 grades.

I’m an immigrant and in Eastern Europe we learned how to use rulers in 1st grade and protractor in 4th grade.

American education is a joke.

Maybe Eastern Europeans who are so brilliant should stay in Eastern Europe and help their poor countries strengthen their economies. Countries like Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania, Moldova plus sure could use help.

Surely Latvia and Lithuania shouldn't be on this list. Those two countries are doing great considering what they have gone through.
Pick countries that were always independent and still can't get their act together.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is in 10th grade in a magnet school in the South. Kids in this school came from all over the state.

In an engineering class they had to do a session on educating students how to use a ruler and a protractor. It turns out, many kids didn’t know what a protractor was or how to use the ruler correctly.

I remember that DC had lined notebook in math throughout the entire 10 grades.

I’m an immigrant and in Eastern Europe we learned how to use rulers in 1st grade and protractor in 4th grade.

American education is a joke.

As a teacher, I always review foundational skills at the beginning of a class to be sure I don’t miss any gaps a few students might have. IME it’s often that students have learned something but forgotten it from lack of use and can be quickly brought up to speed through a review. Just a different perspective.

This, plus I would have a little skepticism ofy teen coming home and saying "omg in engineering, the teacher had to show everyone how to use a protractor and ruler because they had never learned this before." I have a smart kid who is often ahead of peers at school, and she often exaggerates stuff like this because she can be impatient and is easily bored when she has to wait for a classmate to catch on to something. Often it's more like one or two kids, and the issue is not that they had never learned it but that they were struggling with it in that moment. I remind myself kid to remember that in other settings (like anything involving running) sometimes her classmates have to wait for her. That's just what school is like sometimes.

My kid has been in a number of accelerated subjects and gotten support at school to work ahead and do more advanced work. I've found that being open minded and working with the school is the best way to get what you need. American publics have to meet the needs of a really wide range of kids.

Anonymous wrote:I was taught how to use a protractor back in the day, and I'm pretty sure that I haven't used one since I was in school. It's one of those things that you can figure out pretty quickly if you actually have a need to measure angles.

I haven’t used one since HS.

In America it's turning scammy just like our health care system...or lack there if for alot of people. When everything is profit motivated the quality suffers because the biz model is to sell cheap things for high prices.

Anonymous wrote:That’s why Eastern Europe has the best engineers and everyone wants to go there.

TBF, a lot of the EE who come here kicka$$ in academics, as so do many Asian immigrants. The academic bar in the US is set pretty low.

The only reason people come here is because the US is a wealthy country; lots of money to be made. There are several reasons why this is the case, but it's not because the US K-12 education system is the best. Far from it. I would even say that most colleges here aren't that great, but again, the money and opportunities are here, so people want to come here.

Anonymous wrote:DC is in 10th grade in a magnet school in the South. Kids in this school came from all over the state.

In an engineering class they had to do a session on educating students how to use a ruler and a protractor. It turns out, many kids didn’t know what a protractor was or how to use the ruler correctly.

I remember that DC had lined notebook in math throughout the entire 10 grades.

I’m an immigrant and in Eastern Europe we learned how to use rulers in 1st grade and protractor in 4th grade.

American education is a joke.

As a teacher, I always review foundational skills at the beginning of a class to be sure I don’t miss any gaps a few students might have. IME it’s often that students have learned something but forgotten it from lack of use and can be quickly brought up to speed through a review. Just a different perspective.

I think they're afraid the children will stab each other with compasses in the restorative justice circles, requiring even more restorative justice circles.

If I had fewer children or more energy, I would've been able to supplement them up to the standards of the 1980s/1990s publics, but as it is I threw in the towel and sent them to private. With less money, it would've been homeschooling.

NP. I learned how to use a compass and protractor in elementary school (I don't remember the grade) and my DC used this funny plastic thing for a week in 8th grade geometry class.

I don't know why school is so low-level right now, and I feel bad for the kids who could be learning more but aren't. I also don't know who to complain to. Not DCUM though, that's not a way to make change.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC is in 10th grade in a magnet school in the South. Kids in this school came from all over the state.

In an engineering class they had to do a session on educating students how to use a ruler and a protractor. It turns out, many kids didn’t know what a protractor was or how to use the ruler correctly.

I remember that DC had lined notebook in math throughout the entire 10 grades.

I’m an immigrant and in Eastern Europe we learned how to use rulers in 1st grade and protractor in 4th grade.

American education is a joke.

Well, at least our kids are learning all about calling people by their proper pronouns.

And Eastern Europeans are way behind in drag queen appreciation.

If we can all agree that some Americans have gone too woke, many Eastern European countries are disgustingly intolerant of LGBT people, particularly if we’re talking about Russia, and shouldn’t really be lecturing anyone about anything.

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Anonymous wrote:DC is in 10th grade in a magnet school in the South. Kids in this school came from all over the state.

In an engineering class they had to do a session on educating students how to use a ruler and a protractor. It turns out, many kids didn’t know what a protractor was or how to use the ruler correctly.

I remember that DC had lined notebook in math throughout the entire 10 grades.

I’m an immigrant and in Eastern Europe we learned how to use rulers in 1st grade and protractor in 4th grade.

American education is a joke.

Well, at least our kids are learning all about calling people by their proper pronouns.

And Eastern Europeans are way behind in drag queen appreciation.

Have you considered going back to your home country if you had it so good there?