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Anonymous wrote:Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.

I am a man and I completely agree with everything you said.

NP. Thank you. I am married to a man like you and I hope your kind is actually the majority.

To OP’s question, the only large age difference relationship I have had the chance to observe closely is a friend of mine who married a man 25 years her senior. He was a hot shot in international politics (some DCUM posters would surely know his name), married her when she was 22 and he 47. He cheated on her constantly, including while she was giving birth to their second and third children. Now he’s late 60s and has health issues, and the rest of her youthful years will be spent caring for him. She looks like Jennifer Lopez without exaggerating, literally has an ivy PhD, is an incredibly kind friend and devoted mom. I feel awful for her, and she has never had the courage to leave because of the kids. Maybe she will now but I’ve given up talking to her about it.

When I hear of age gap relationships like this, it makes me very sad. Maybe some are “true love” but the majority is just users taking advantage of young women.

If she’s so great, why’d she marry a 25 years older man? Any woman who respected themselves and womankind in general would not do that.

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Anonymous wrote:Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.

I am a man and I completely agree with everything you said.

But no, we don’t hate ex husbands or their new GFs/wives. It’s just telling to me that my exH was NOT the person I would like to spend my retirement with. It’s telling that he had no integrity and zero gratitude. So good luck to his new wife to take care of him when he’s old.

To these men - when you say that the new GF is hotter, better, kinder etc -wasn’t your first wife just the same in her 20s ? She also could have married an “established” older man when she was in her prime. But she chose you, back then a poor student/young professional, and entrusted her best years to have kids and build a life. So no, your new GF is just a calculative, cold piece of s..t who secretly despises and disrespects you for being a wallet and a chump.

This is so spot on.

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Anonymous wrote:Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.

I am a man and I completely agree with everything you said.

NP. Thank you. I am married to a man like you and I hope your kind is actually the majority.

To OP’s question, the only large age difference relationship I have had the chance to observe closely is a friend of mine who married a man 25 years her senior. He was a hot shot in international politics (some DCUM posters would surely know his name), married her when she was 22 and he 47. He cheated on her constantly, including while she was giving birth to their second and third children. Now he’s late 60s and has health issues, and the rest of her youthful years will be spent caring for him. She looks like Jennifer Lopez without exaggerating, literally has an ivy PhD, is an incredibly kind friend and devoted mom. I feel awful for her, and she has never had the courage to leave because of the kids. Maybe she will now but I’ve given up talking to her about it.

When I hear of age gap relationships like this, it makes me very sad. Maybe some are “true love” but the majority is just users taking advantage of young women.

Anonymous wrote:There's not a lot of public acknowledgment that when men marry women 20, 30 years younger, it's not good for society in general. It's not good for kids to have fathers that much older (for many reasons, including genetics). It's not good for the women who end up being widowed in their 50s. But mostly it's just not a good thing 1/2 of the population feels that their value as a person is so tied to something essentially meaningless.

We like to think that our value on the dating market should not be so heavily weighted in favor of something trivial.

I am surprised that conservatives don't call this out more often or talk about this. The fact that families in general suffer when there's such a disparity in ages, and that there are millions of older women who are all alone because they married old men. It benefits rich older men to marry young women but the whole female population pays a price when this becomes common.

By at large it's economic disparity that pushes much younger women to marry older: the more economic power and protections women get, the lesser would be incentives for that

Anonymous wrote:There's not a lot of public acknowledgment that when men marry women 20, 30 years younger, it's not good for society in general. It's not good for kids to have fathers that much older (for many reasons, including genetics). It's not good for the women who end up being widowed in their 50s. But mostly it's just not a good thing 1/2 of the population feels that their value as a person is so tied to something essentially meaningless.

We like to think that our value on the dating market should not be so heavily weighted in favor of something trivial.

I am surprised that conservatives don't call this out more often or talk about this. The fact that families in general suffer when there's such a disparity in ages, and that there are millions of older women who are all alone because they married old men. It benefits rich older men to marry young women but the whole female population pays a price when this becomes common.

Conservatives are silent because it's a form of an ancient sex trade/slavery and exploitation of women. I know at least 3 men who literally "upgrade" to a younger version every 10 years. Divorced 2-3 times: first wive his age; second 10 years younger and the 3rd one (that he dies on) is 20 years younger. I don't now how much it's justified by mismatched libido in older (40-50s) age group: if men on average live 6 years shorter than women, they shouldn't need 20 years younger woman to get it up. It's more like he "buys" a younger body to warm him up and please his eye because he CAN.

There's not a lot of public acknowledgment that when men marry women 20, 30 years younger, it's not good for society in general. It's not good for kids to have fathers that much older (for many reasons, including genetics). It's not good for the women who end up being widowed in their 50s. But mostly it's just not a good thing 1/2 of the population feels that their value as a person is so tied to something essentially meaningless.

We like to think that our value on the dating market should not be so heavily weighted in favor of something trivial.

I am surprised that conservatives don't call this out more often or talk about this. The fact that families in general suffer when there's such a disparity in ages, and that there are millions of older women who are all alone because they married old men. It benefits rich older men to marry young women but the whole female population pays a price when this becomes common.

Same reason men get triggered by women dating richer men.

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Anonymous wrote:Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.

I am a man and I completely agree with everything you said.

But no, we don’t hate ex husbands or their new GFs/wives. It’s just telling to me that my exH was NOT the person I would like to spend my retirement with. It’s telling that he had no integrity and zero gratitude. So good luck to his new wife to take care of him when he’s old.

To these men - when you say that the new GF is hotter, better, kinder etc -wasn’t your first wife just the same in her 20s ? She also could have married an “established” older man when she was in her prime. But she chose you, back then a poor student/young professional, and entrusted her best years to have kids and build a life. So no, your new GF is just a calculative, cold piece of s..t who secretly despises and disrespects you for being a wallet and a chump.

Yeah. I outearned my husband when we met and I had way more options than he did romantically, but I thought we shared values and I wanted to grow together with him. We had kids, he decided his life was less fun and I was now less hot, and he started sleeping with someone much younger, made very clear he'd be fine walking away from our kids, and negatively compared me to her. It felt like this was my only shot at finding a partner to marry and have kids with and I wasted it on him. Whereas he could just start over with someone younger. And yes, she had a pattern of this sort of thing.

My dad left my mom a few months after he retired for a woman who was 25 years younger than my mom. The pain I witnessed in my mom has inoculated me against doing the very same thing to my wife.

I would recommend to all men who want to f…k a younger P to discuss an open marriage with wife. A lot of these affairs dissipate on their own if the younger woman realizes that husband would never leave the first family. In my home country it’s customary to never divorce/split assets and men (usually wealthy) support two families.

My exH AP actually dumped him when she realized all assets were in trusts/premarital and he retired from a high paying job. He’s now single in early 60s dating again. But the family we had is gone; collateral damage to our son is irreparable.

We could have avoided all this if he had the guts to discuss what exactly he wasn’t getting in the family. We were still having sex and traveling in parallel with his developing affair with AP. We had a very long, kinky marriage, and I would have allowed things like threesomes from time to time. Im myself attracted to women… He never asked, because AP wouldn’t have wanted/allowed. Her interest was get him divorced asap and get her claws into assets.

It’s not all black and white: often relationship with the wife is damaged but not irreparably so. Spouses need to communicate more openly about their needs, physical or emotional.

Anonymous wrote:Why are women so triggered about men dating younger?

Older men brag about dating younger but there isn't much to it. It's often just midlife crisis. Yet women on here are so triggered by it. Stop feeling insecure about it. And in 99.9% of cases you wouldn't even date those older men anyways so why are you so triggered?

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Anonymous wrote:Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.

I am a man and I completely agree with everything you said.

But no, we don’t hate ex husbands or their new GFs/wives. It’s just telling to me that my exH was NOT the person I would like to spend my retirement with. It’s telling that he had no integrity and zero gratitude. So good luck to his new wife to take care of him when he’s old.

To these men - when you say that the new GF is hotter, better, kinder etc -wasn’t your first wife just the same in her 20s ? She also could have married an “established” older man when she was in her prime. But she chose you, back then a poor student/young professional, and entrusted her best years to have kids and build a life. So no, your new GF is just a calculative, cold piece of s..t who secretly despises and disrespects you for being a wallet and a chump.

Yeah. I outearned my husband when we met and I had way more options than he did romantically, but I thought we shared values and I wanted to grow together with him. We had kids, he decided his life was less fun and I was now less hot, and he started sleeping with someone much younger, made very clear he'd be fine walking away from our kids, and negatively compared me to her. It felt like this was my only shot at finding a partner to marry and have kids with and I wasted it on him. Whereas he could just start over with someone younger. And yes, she had a pattern of this sort of thing.

My dad left my mom a few months after he retired for a woman who was 25 years younger than my mom. The pain I witnessed in my mom has inoculated me against doing the very same thing to my wife.

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Anonymous wrote:Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.

I am a man and I completely agree with everything you said.

But no, we don’t hate ex husbands or their new GFs/wives. It’s just telling to me that my exH was NOT the person I would like to spend my retirement with. It’s telling that he had no integrity and zero gratitude. So good luck to his new wife to take care of him when he’s old.

To these men - when you say that the new GF is hotter, better, kinder etc -wasn’t your first wife just the same in her 20s ? She also could have married an “established” older man when she was in her prime. But she chose you, back then a poor student/young professional, and entrusted her best years to have kids and build a life. So no, your new GF is just a calculative, cold piece of s..t who secretly despises and disrespects you for being a wallet and a chump.

Yeah. I outearned my husband when we met and I had way more options than he did romantically, but I thought we shared values and I wanted to grow together with him. We had kids, he decided his life was less fun and I was now less hot, and he started sleeping with someone much younger, made very clear he'd be fine walking away from our kids, and negatively compared me to her. It felt like this was my only shot at finding a partner to marry and have kids with and I wasted it on him. Whereas he could just start over with someone younger. And yes, she had a pattern of this sort of thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.

I am a man and I completely agree with everything you said.

But no, we don’t hate ex husbands or their new GFs/wives. It’s just telling to me that my exH was NOT the person I would like to spend my retirement with. It’s telling that he had no integrity and zero gratitude. So good luck to his new wife to take care of him when he’s old.

To these men - when you say that the new GF is hotter, better, kinder etc -wasn’t your first wife just the same in her 20s ? She also could have married an “established” older man when she was in her prime. But she chose you, back then a poor student/young professional, and entrusted her best years to have kids and build a life. So no, your new GF is just a calculative, cold piece of s..t who secretly despises and disrespects you for being a wallet and a chump.

Men are all about b***be and a***s. As women age these 2 specific features naturally change and the man will start looking for those in often younger women.

Anonymous wrote:Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.

I am a man and I completely agree with everything you said.

Because there is a lot of negativity towards older women coming from those same men. Read this forum: post menopausal, low L, crazy, cat lady etc. As if they forgotten that they used to admire and married those same women 20 years ago. It sucks when out of a sudden half of humanity considers you second sort citizen just because you aged. Men feel like they are invincible, can offload inconvenient old wife AND the kids and start completely anew. And they brag about it.

Women are still economically less privileged, and age discrimination post 40 is real at workplace. Many end up devoting their best years to families only to be kicked to the curb by employers, husbands, and out of a sudden become invisible.

Younger women rush get their slice of this pie, and often bully ex wives on this forum and with their partners. A of it is economical completion for men’s resources (which they often accumulated with direct support and huge sacrifices of the first wives).

The government should pay US mothers to have kids because women are still unprotected class in this country.