Anonymous wrote:A few really unimpressive students at our private HS just got admitted ED. I am talking C's in non-honors classes.

I'm curious how you know these students were "unimpressive?" Did you acquire this information skulking around a parent-teacher conference, intercepted their report card, had your (presumably impressive) child be a mini-Aldrich Ames and report to you their findings?

A few really unimpressive students at our private HS just got admitted ED. I am talking C's in non-honors classes.

Anonymous wrote:With Tulane now being ranked below VTech, shouldn't it be easier to get in there now? Applications etc must be down after their ranking drop. Have things gotten less competitive at these places that are no longer prestigious after their ranking drops?

Nope. Tulane is a top choice for many people. It is a special place in a cool city. I know of a few pretty good students at Big 3 schools that ED to Tulane.

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Anonymous wrote:Tulane's free fall in its rankings have spooked their admissions team, so past will not necessarily be prologue.

It is laughable to think one university jumps 20-30 places in the ranking and another falls 20-30 spots in one year when nothing changed at either university. What changed was U.S. News & World Report ranking methodology.

The rankings now focus on how well schools help students from different backgrounds graduate, rather than traditional metrics like test scores, class size*, and wealth. They have given increase weight to graduation rates of Pell Grant recipients. If you are not a Pell Grant recipient or student from a disadvantaged background does this type of ranking weighting priority really help you determine which school is a better fit?

Pell Grant will most likely be gone or greatly reduced by next year with the closing of the department of education a Trump administration priority. So next year US New & World Order Report rankings will be radically different with no actual physical, academic, administrative, number of applications, test scores, etc change taking place at the universities and colleges.

* Tulane has small class sizes and professors teach the classes.

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It’s the reasons UCs do so well in rankings - a large % of low income students.

Does it mean these kids will get a superior education? They may or they may not. But the rankings are not an indicator of quality of education.

I wish people could look beyond them. And I wish colleges wouldn’t chase the rankings, but I understand the economic reasons for doing so.

None of this matters as it is clear Tulane is in fact chasing the new rankings, and rest assured once it has chased its way back to a position that people are happy with there will be no more railing at the rankings.

BTW, Tulane's USNews ranking is its HIGHEST ranking of any of the various rankings out there.

Just stop. Ranking do not matter. It is about demand.

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Anonymous wrote:Tulane's free fall in its rankings have spooked their admissions team, so past will not necessarily be prologue.

It is laughable to think one university jumps 20-30 places in the ranking and another falls 20-30 spots in one year when nothing changed at either university. What changed was U.S. News & World Report ranking methodology.

The rankings now focus on how well schools help students from different backgrounds graduate, rather than traditional metrics like test scores, class size*, and wealth. They have given increase weight to graduation rates of Pell Grant recipients. If you are not a Pell Grant recipient or student from a disadvantaged background does this type of ranking weighting priority really help you determine which school is a better fit?

Pell Grant will most likely be gone or greatly reduced by next year with the closing of the department of education a Trump administration priority. So next year US New & World Order Report rankings will be radically different with no actual physical, academic, administrative, number of applications, test scores, etc change taking place at the universities and colleges.

* Tulane has small class sizes and professors teach the classes.

+100

It’s the reasons UCs do so well in rankings - a large % of low income students.

Does it mean these kids will get a superior education? They may or they may not. But the rankings are not an indicator of quality of education.

I wish people could look beyond them. And I wish colleges wouldn’t chase the rankings, but I understand the economic reasons for doing so.

None of this matters as it is clear Tulane is in fact chasing the new rankings, and rest assured once it has chased its way back to a position that people are happy with there will be no more railing at the rankings.

BTW, Tulane's USNews ranking is its HIGHEST ranking of any of the various rankings out there.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of Tulane ED rejections at my daughter’s school so I think they are moving away from accepting so many kids in ED, and it will be a more regularized process with more RD acceptances going forward.

Here too. Tulane rejected a number of qualified kids at our school.

I heard you have to show interest(whatever that means) in the school. The average number of applications per kid 6.22. Two reaches, two good shots and 2-3 safety schools. The universities want kids who want to go to their school and show it.

ED is the ultimate expression of interest. If you get in you have to go there.

FWIW, we are not seeing the same at our school.

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of Tulane ED rejections at my daughter’s school so I think they are moving away from accepting so many kids in ED, and it will be a more regularized process with more RD acceptances going forward.

Here too. Tulane rejected a number of qualified kids at our school.

I heard you have to show interest(whatever that means) in the school. The average number of applications per kid 6.22. Two reaches, two good shots and 2-3 safety schools. The universities want kids who want to go to their school and show it.

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Anonymous wrote:Tulane's free fall in its rankings have spooked their admissions team, so past will not necessarily be prologue.

It is laughable to think one university jumps 20-30 places in the ranking and another falls 20-30 spots in one year when nothing changed at either university. What changed was U.S. News & World Report ranking methodology.

The rankings now focus on how well schools help students from different backgrounds graduate, rather than traditional metrics like test scores, class size*, and wealth. They have given increase weight to graduation rates of Pell Grant recipients. If you are not a Pell Grant recipient or student from a disadvantaged background does this type of ranking weighting priority really help you determine which school is a better fit?

Pell Grant will most likely be gone or greatly reduced by next year with the closing of the department of education a Trump administration priority. So next year US New & World Order Report rankings will be radically different with no actual physical, academic, administrative, number of applications, test scores, etc change taking place at the universities and colleges.

* Tulane has small class sizes and professors teach the classes.

+100

It’s the reasons UCs do so well in rankings - a large % of low income students.

Does it mean these kids will get a superior education? They may or they may not. But the rankings are not an indicator of quality of education.

I wish people could look beyond them. And I wish colleges wouldn’t chase the rankings, but I understand the economic reasons for doing so.

Anonymous wrote:Tulane's free fall in its rankings have spooked their admissions team, so past will not necessarily be prologue.

It is laughable to think one university jumps 20-30 places in the ranking and another falls 20-30 spots in one year when nothing changed at either university. What changed was U.S. News & World Report ranking methodology.

The rankings now focus on how well schools help students from different backgrounds graduate, rather than traditional metrics like test scores, class size*, and wealth. They have given increase weight to graduation rates of Pell Grant recipients. If you are not a Pell Grant recipient or student from a disadvantaged background does this type of ranking weighting priority really help you determine which school is a better fit?

Pell Grant will most likely be gone or greatly reduced by next year with the closing of the department of education a Trump administration priority. So next year US New & World Order Report rankings will be radically different with no actual physical, academic, administrative, number of applications, test scores, etc change taking place at the universities and colleges.

* Tulane has small class sizes and professors teach the classes.

Anonymous wrote:Lots of Tulane ED rejections at my daughter’s school so I think they are moving away from accepting so many kids in ED, and it will be a more regularized process with more RD acceptances going forward.

Here too. Tulane rejected a number of qualified kids at our school.

What does that mean?

Seems to me like UVM is edging into Tulane’s lane this cycle.

Anonymous wrote:Tulane's free fall in its rankings have spooked their admissions team, so past will not necessarily be prologue.

Meaning?

Anonymous wrote:Tulane's free fall in its rankings have spooked their admissions team, so past will not necessarily be prologue.

There isn’t the correlation between number of applications received and the latest U.S. News rankings that you seem to think there is.

Tulane's free fall in its rankings have spooked their admissions team, so past will not necessarily be prologue.