Anonymous
12/03/2024 08:44
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:Where is this list/data from? And what is does Opportunity school mean?
I don't know what "opportunity" school means to the OP in general, but I like the concept of schools with easier admissions but strong outcomes. Though I generally don't guide my choices by magazine rankings, I think there's a lot to learn from them if you understand their criteria and compare it to your own. And I remember being very surprised that in the WSJ ranking, which heavily values ROI, the DMV schools in the top 40 were: Virginia Tech (19), Loyola Maryland (23), UDelaware (26), UVA (33), Towson (40).
I think this makes Loyola MD, U Delaware, and Towson really interesting for this area - schools with relatively easy admission but whose graduates seem to do well.
Personally, I think Delaware is majorly undervalued due to the sports not being as strong as some of the other flagships. And while, sure, sports add to the college experience, I think they are overvalued by prospective students.
Anonymous
12/03/2024 08:37
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:What kind of bubble do you people live in. The only needle-moving school in the DMV is the USNA. That’s it, the full list. Hopkins, Georgetown, and UVA are fine, but outside of this bubble, nobody GAF about any of them.
Disagree about JHU. It's globally known for med school.
Anonymous
12/03/2024 08:35
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
What is USNA?
Anonymous
12/03/2024 08:32
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:What kind of bubble do you people live in. The only needle-moving school in the DMV is the USNA. That’s it, the full list. Hopkins, Georgetown, and UVA are fine, but outside of this bubble, nobody GAF about any of them.
What's your point? This is a DMVer site. Just because outsiders enter dcum doesn't mean we have to pop our bubble.
Anonymous
12/03/2024 06:03
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A+ Tier:
Johns Hopkins - 1550
A Tier Privates:
Georgetown - 1480
Washington & Lee - 1480
A- Tier Privates:
University of Richmond - 1460
A Tier Publics:
UVA - 1470
W&M - 1470
UMD College Park - 1450
A- Tier Publics
Virginia Tech - 1360
B+ Tier Publics:
Delaware - 1280
USNA - 1380
B Tier Privates:
George Washington - 1420
B- Tier Privates:
American
Howard
C Tier Publics:
JMU
Opportunity Schools:
GMU
St. Mary's College
CNU
UMBC
ODU
Loyola U Maryland
UMW
Radford
Longwood
VCU
Etc.
These are all TO stats so completely meaningless. W&L and Richmond?? A/A-?? lol
Rankings are not based on the test scores. Just included for reference. See Virginia Tech and American.
I see. So there's grade inflation in these ratings as well. Other than JHU, GU, and UVA, drop every school at least half a grade.
W&L doesn't have guaranteed admission students from community colleges or "W&L at Wise". Drop all VA publics by a full letter grade and raise all privates by at least half a letter grade.
There she is. The W&L booster. Making a dumb ranking system just to say how great their above average school is. Maybe try not to have a confederate loser as part of your school name to go along with your 80% white campus.
+1
Anonymous
12/02/2024 21:09
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
What kind of bubble do you people live in. The only needle-moving school in the DMV is the USNA. That’s it, the full list. Hopkins, Georgetown, and UVA are fine, but outside of this bubble, nobody GAF about any of them.
Anonymous
12/02/2024 20:43
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:A+ Tier:
Johns Hopkins - 1550
A Tier Privates:
Georgetown - 1480
Washington & Lee - 1480
A- Tier Privates:
University of Richmond - 1460
A Tier Publics:
UVA - 1470
W&M - 1470
UMD College Park - 1450
A- Tier Publics
Virginia Tech - 1360
B+ Tier Publics:
Delaware - 1280
USNA - 1380
B Tier Privates:
George Washington - 1420
B- Tier Privates:
American
Howard
C Tier Publics:
JMU
Opportunity Schools:
GMU
St. Mary's College
CNU
UMBC
ODU
Loyola U Maryland
UMW
Radford
Longwood
VCU
Etc.
Without including the percentage submitting standardized scores, it doesn't mean very much.
Anonymous
12/02/2024 20:42
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:Where is this list/data from? And what is does Opportunity school mean?
OP's self-made list.
PC way to refer to those schools.
Anonymous
12/02/2024 20:41
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Where is this list/data from? And what is does Opportunity school mean?
Anonymous
12/02/2024 20:40
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Glad to see UDel is finally making some progress on DCUM! Very underrated school. Also GWU - totally overrated - no way that’s a B these days.
Anonymous
12/02/2024 19:24
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A+ Tier:
Johns Hopkins - 1550
A Tier Privates:
Georgetown - 1480
Washington & Lee - 1480
A- Tier Privates:
University of Richmond - 1460
A Tier Publics:
UVA - 1470
W&M - 1470
UMD College Park - 1450
A- Tier Publics
Virginia Tech - 1360
B+ Tier Publics:
Delaware - 1280
USNA - 1380
B Tier Privates:
George Washington - 1420
B- Tier Privates:
American
Howard
C Tier Publics:
JMU
Opportunity Schools:
GMU
St. Mary's College
CNU
UMBC
ODU
Loyola U Maryland
UMW
Radford
Longwood
VCU
Etc.
These are all TO stats so completely meaningless. W&L and Richmond?? A/A-?? lol
Rankings are not based on the test scores. Just included for reference. See Virginia Tech and American.
I see. So there's grade inflation in these ratings as well. Other than JHU, GU, and UVA, drop every school at least half a grade.
W&L doesn't have guaranteed admission students from community colleges or "W&L at Wise". Drop all VA publics by a full letter grade and raise all privates by at least half a letter grade.
There she is. The W&L booster. Making a dumb ranking system just to say how great their above average school is. Maybe try not to have a confederate loser as part of your school name to go along with your 80% white campus.
What? I have no skin in the game. Also, W&L is a top choice for top 1%ers and good test takers.
1% of who? Students are 70% TO, 75% southern states, and only 4% Asian. Must be 1% of the 3rd quartile.
Students are 48% TO on par with UVA and W&M. I meant top 1% of the income distribution. Eye roll.
https://www.wlu.edu/admissions/apply/new-class-profile/
59% TO
And UVA is like 33% TO.
Percent submitting for class of 2028:
UVA: 59.3%
VTech: 49.3%
W&M: 58.7%
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
I just looked up UVA's CDS and 50% submitted SAT and 16% submitted ACT. So 66%
Not true. UVA hasn't released 2024-2025 common data set. SCHEV data is 2024-2025.
CDS was 23-24. Didn't realize SCHEV was this year
Anonymous
12/02/2024 19:23
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A+ Tier:
Johns Hopkins - 1550
A Tier Privates:
Georgetown - 1480
Washington & Lee - 1480
A- Tier Privates:
University of Richmond - 1460
A Tier Publics:
UVA - 1470
W&M - 1470
UMD College Park - 1450
A- Tier Publics
Virginia Tech - 1360
B+ Tier Publics:
Delaware - 1280
USNA - 1380
B Tier Privates:
George Washington - 1420
B- Tier Privates:
American
Howard
C Tier Publics:
JMU
Opportunity Schools:
GMU
St. Mary's College
CNU
UMBC
ODU
Loyola U Maryland
UMW
Radford
Longwood
VCU
Etc.
These are all TO stats so completely meaningless. W&L and Richmond?? A/A-?? lol
Rankings are not based on the test scores. Just included for reference. See Virginia Tech and American.
I see. So there's grade inflation in these ratings as well. Other than JHU, GU, and UVA, drop every school at least half a grade.
W&L doesn't have guaranteed admission students from community colleges or "W&L at Wise". Drop all VA publics by a full letter grade and raise all privates by at least half a letter grade.
There she is. The W&L booster. Making a dumb ranking system just to say how great their above average school is. Maybe try not to have a confederate loser as part of your school name to go along with your 80% white campus.
What? I have no skin in the game. Also, W&L is a top choice for top 1%ers and good test takers.
1% of who? Students are 70% TO, 75% southern states, and only 4% Asian. Must be 1% of the 3rd quartile.
Students are 48% TO on par with UVA and W&M. I meant top 1% of the income distribution. Eye roll.
https://www.wlu.edu/admissions/apply/new-class-profile/
59% TO
And UVA is like 33% TO.
Percent submitting for class of 2028:
UVA: 59.3%
VTech: 49.3%
W&M: 58.7%
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
I just looked up UVA's CDS and 50% submitted SAT and 16% submitted ACT. So 66%
If you want to use year old data that's fine but I think most recent is most relevant.
Anonymous
12/02/2024 19:22
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A+ Tier:
Johns Hopkins - 1550
A Tier Privates:
Georgetown - 1480
Washington & Lee - 1480
A- Tier Privates:
University of Richmond - 1460
A Tier Publics:
UVA - 1470
W&M - 1470
UMD College Park - 1450
A- Tier Publics
Virginia Tech - 1360
B+ Tier Publics:
Delaware - 1280
USNA - 1380
B Tier Privates:
George Washington - 1420
B- Tier Privates:
American
Howard
C Tier Publics:
JMU
Opportunity Schools:
GMU
St. Mary's College
CNU
UMBC
ODU
Loyola U Maryland
UMW
Radford
Longwood
VCU
Etc.
These are all TO stats so completely meaningless. W&L and Richmond?? A/A-?? lol
Rankings are not based on the test scores. Just included for reference. See Virginia Tech and American.
I see. So there's grade inflation in these ratings as well. Other than JHU, GU, and UVA, drop every school at least half a grade.
W&L doesn't have guaranteed admission students from community colleges or "W&L at Wise". Drop all VA publics by a full letter grade and raise all privates by at least half a letter grade.
There she is. The W&L booster. Making a dumb ranking system just to say how great their above average school is. Maybe try not to have a confederate loser as part of your school name to go along with your 80% white campus.
What? I have no skin in the game. Also, W&L is a top choice for top 1%ers and good test takers.
1% of who? Students are 70% TO, 75% southern states, and only 4% Asian. Must be 1% of the 3rd quartile.
Students are 48% TO on par with UVA and W&M. I meant top 1% of the income distribution. Eye roll.
https://www.wlu.edu/admissions/apply/new-class-profile/
59% TO
And UVA is like 33% TO.
Percent submitting for class of 2028:
UVA: 59.3%
VTech: 49.3%
W&M: 58.7%
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
I just looked up UVA's CDS and 50% submitted SAT and 16% submitted ACT. So 66%
Not true. UVA hasn't released 2024-2025 common data set. SCHEV data is 2024-2025.
Anonymous
12/02/2024 19:21
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A+ Tier:
Johns Hopkins - 1550
A Tier Privates:
Georgetown - 1480
Washington & Lee - 1480
A- Tier Privates:
University of Richmond - 1460
A Tier Publics:
UVA - 1470
W&M - 1470
UMD College Park - 1450
A- Tier Publics
Virginia Tech - 1360
B+ Tier Publics:
Delaware - 1280
USNA - 1380
B Tier Privates:
George Washington - 1420
B- Tier Privates:
American
Howard
C Tier Publics:
JMU
Opportunity Schools:
GMU
St. Mary's College
CNU
UMBC
ODU
Loyola U Maryland
UMW
Radford
Longwood
VCU
Etc.
These are all TO stats so completely meaningless. W&L and Richmond?? A/A-?? lol
Rankings are not based on the test scores. Just included for reference. See Virginia Tech and American.
I see. So there's grade inflation in these ratings as well. Other than JHU, GU, and UVA, drop every school at least half a grade.
W&L doesn't have guaranteed admission students from community colleges or "W&L at Wise". Drop all VA publics by a full letter grade and raise all privates by at least half a letter grade.
There she is. The W&L booster. Making a dumb ranking system just to say how great their above average school is. Maybe try not to have a confederate loser as part of your school name to go along with your 80% white campus.
What? I have no skin in the game. Also, W&L is a top choice for top 1%ers and good test takers.
1% of who? Students are 70% TO, 75% southern states, and only 4% Asian. Must be 1% of the 3rd quartile.
Students are 48% TO on par with UVA and W&M. I meant top 1% of the income distribution. Eye roll.
https://www.wlu.edu/admissions/apply/new-class-profile/
59% TO
And UVA is like 33% TO.
Percent submitting for class of 2028:
UVA: 59.3%
VTech: 49.3%
W&M: 58.7%
https://research.schev.edu//enrollment/B10_FreshmenProfile.asp
I just looked up UVA's CDS and 50% submitted SAT and 16% submitted ACT. So 66%
Anonymous
12/02/2024 19:20
Subject: DMV + DE university tiers
Anonymous wrote:These posts are kind of fun! We all just spout opinions without substantiating them based on a neighbor's kid and some guy we knew back in the 90s ...
I like the category of opportunity school! I don't know enough about that group (not that that should stop me!) to say who belongs so I'll leave it as is.
anyway, here's my edit of your list.
***
A Tier Privates:
Johns Hopkins - 1550
Georgetown - 1480
A Tier Publics:
UVA - 1470
W&M - 1470
A- Tier Publics
UMD College Park - 1450
Virginia Tech - 1360
B+ Tier Privates:
Washington & Lee - 1480
University of Richmond - 1460
B+ Tier Publics:
Delaware - 1280
USNA - 1380
B Tier Privates:
George Washington - 1420
B- Tier Privates:
American
Howard
C Tier Publics:
JMU
Opportunity Schools:
GMU
St. Mary's College
CNU
UMBC
ODU
Loyola U Maryland
UMW
Radford
Longwood
VCU
Etc.
Agree with this list more than the original