Anonymous
11/29/2024 10:20
Subject: Re:Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Education is the point. It's not all about ranking. I learned a lot at my lower-ranked university and I think I'm a better person for that education. Plus, a lot of jobs require a college degree, but not necessarily a degree from Harvard.
There are tons of college grads with significant loan balances that are underemployed or unemployed.
The vast majority went to cheap, regional/state schools that may only cost $10k per year but offer zero aid and these kids borrow nearly 100%.
These kids would have been much better off never going based on the jobs they actually have.
For very motivated kid from no-name regional college that “makes it” there are 100 kids that are worse off from attending.
Please define “makes it” and what it means to be “worse off”.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 10:17
Subject: Re:Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Education is the point. It's not all about ranking. I learned a lot at my lower-ranked university and I think I'm a better person for that education. Plus, a lot of jobs require a college degree, but not necessarily a degree from Harvard.
There are tons of college grads with significant loan balances that are underemployed or unemployed.
The vast majority went to cheap, regional/state schools that may only cost $10k per year but offer zero aid and these kids borrow nearly 100%.
These kids would have been much better off never going based on the jobs they actually have.
For very motivated kid from no-name regional college that “makes it” there are 100 kids that are worse off from attending.
What state schools are $10k per year?
Anonymous
11/29/2024 10:15
Subject: Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some people say that’s the point of college. Only some.
And it isn’t true, so OP’s question is moot.
Why? because you say so? (stamp of feet)
DP. No, because for it to be “true” it would have to be true for everyone. And it’s not.
OP didn’t frame it as “if you are someone who happens to believe the value of college is making connections, then what for you might be the point…” They suggested that one narrowly defined potential benefit IS the point.
I made the original comment and this is an excellent response.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 10:10
Subject: Re:Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Education is the point. It's not all about ranking. I learned a lot at my lower-ranked university and I think I'm a better person for that education. Plus, a lot of jobs require a college degree, but not necessarily a degree from Harvard.
There are tons of college grads with significant loan balances that are underemployed or unemployed.
The vast majority went to cheap, regional/state schools that may only cost $10k per year but offer zero aid and these kids borrow nearly 100%.
These kids would have been much better off never going based on the jobs they actually have.
For very motivated kid from no-name regional college that “makes it” there are 100 kids that are worse off from attending.
No, nearly 100% of students are not worse off because they went to a lower ranked university.
Ridiculous claim, supported by stats PP made up.
Anyway, there’s quite a bit of daylight between t70 and the kind of schools PP is talking about.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 10:03
Subject: Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People say the real value of college is making connections. [b]If this is true, wouldn't you be better off trying to get internships and network at events than going to a no-name university? Is there any point in going to a college outside the T70 or so?
Yes, it's true. Especially considering the cost of higher ed today. I was fortunate to get into Harvard and Harvard Law. The experience (social mobility, career opportunities, connections) changed my life. I still have very good friends from those days in powerful positions around the world.
OMG you went to HARVARD?!?!?
Anonymous
11/29/2024 10:01
Subject: Point in going to a low ranked college?
Depends on the program. It has been discussed before but there are a fair number of lower ranked colleges that have one (or two) top ranked programs. If your student isn't doing the same thing as everyone else (computer science, biology, business) then you should do your research.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 10:00
Subject: Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some people say that’s the point of college. Only some.
And it isn’t true, so OP’s question is moot.
Why? because you say so? (stamp of feet)
Well, the statement is just as thoroughly-supported as OP’s premise.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 09:37
Subject: Re:Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Education is the point. It's not all about ranking. I learned a lot at my lower-ranked university and I think I'm a better person for that education. Plus, a lot of jobs require a college degree, but not necessarily a degree from Harvard.
There are tons of college grads with significant loan balances that are underemployed or unemployed.
The vast majority went to cheap, regional/state schools that may only cost $10k per year but offer zero aid and these kids borrow nearly 100%.
These kids would have been much better off never going based on the jobs they actually have.
For very motivated kid from no-name regional college that “makes it” there are 100 kids that are worse off from attending.
No, nearly 100% of students are not worse off because they went to a lower ranked university.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 09:24
Subject: Re:Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Education is the point. It's not all about ranking. I learned a lot at my lower-ranked university and I think I'm a better person for that education. Plus, a lot of jobs require a college degree, but not necessarily a degree from Harvard.
There are tons of college grads with significant loan balances that are underemployed or unemployed.
The vast majority went to cheap, regional/state schools that may only cost $10k per year but offer zero aid and these kids borrow nearly 100%.
These kids would have been much better off never going based on the jobs they actually have.
For very motivated kid from no-name regional college that “makes it” there are 100 kids that are worse off from attending.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 09:21
Subject: Point in going to a low ranked college?
My DC is in at a safety that has already offered merit. The pros of going there is that it will be cheaper (saving $$ for grad school) and they have a better chance at being at the top of their class. The decision is a long way off, but there are benefits to not choosing the highest ranked school.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 08:41
Subject: Re:Point in going to a low ranked college?
Education is the point. It's not all about ranking. I learned a lot at my lower-ranked university and I think I'm a better person for that education. Plus, a lot of jobs require a college degree, but not necessarily a degree from Harvard.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 08:25
Subject: Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Some people say that’s the point of college. Only some.
And it isn’t true, so OP’s question is moot.
Why? because you say so? (stamp of feet)
DP. No, because for it to be “true” it would have to be true for everyone. And it’s not.
OP didn’t frame it as “if you are someone who happens to believe the value of college is making connections, then what for you might be the point…” They suggested that one narrowly defined potential benefit IS the point.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 08:17
Subject: Re:Point in going to a low ranked college?
A degree is a degree. 2 years outside of college it doesn't matter where you went - just need the degree to get thru the resume sorter.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 08:11
Subject: Point in going to a low ranked college?
People who go to bottom private colleges are either getting vocational training, have rich parents, or ar e financially ruining themselves.
Anonymous
11/29/2024 07:36
Subject: Point in going to a low ranked college?
Anonymous wrote:People say the real value of college is making connections. If this is true, wouldn't you be better off trying to get internships and network at events than going to a no-name university? Is there any point in going to a college outside the T70 or so?
Do people with only high school diplomas get internships with valuable connections?