Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

My full pay kid was waitlisted at a school where she was at the 75% for grades and test scores. Didn’t seem to help her at all.

lol.

Full pay is not a guarantee.

Anonymous wrote:All colleges have to have enough full pay students to cover the merit students. They have to be choosy with who gets merit, so it’s easier if you are full
Pay.

Your post is confusing. Also, "full pay" kids also get merit awards; mine did.

Anonymous wrote:Brown
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Georgetown
WashU

Add Tufts and Chicago

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ disagree with that first part based on our child's reality. 4.81 WGPA, 35 ACT, NMS, ECs, leadership, full pay and rejected at 2 of these and WL at 1 and then rejected at another: UCs, Michigan, Texas, and UNC

Your child's rejection at those highly rejective schools may have had nothing to do with their ability to pay or not.

Which simply echos her point that full pay makes no difference.

All colleges have to have enough full pay students to cover the merit students. They have to be choosy with who gets merit, so it’s easier if you are full
Pay.

CollegeRaptor has a page that shows how wealthy schools are. The wealthier ones probably don't care as much about full pay.

https://www.collegeraptor.com/college-rankings/details/EndowmentPerStudent

Anonymous wrote:^^ disagree with that first part based on our child's reality. 4.81 WGPA, 35 ACT, NMS, ECs, leadership, full pay and rejected at 2 of these and WL at 1 and then rejected at another: UCs, Michigan, Texas, and UNC

Your child's rejection at those highly rejective schools may have had nothing to do with their ability to pay or not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Brown
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Georgetown
WashU

And the gold star = UChicago

Dartmouth is need blind for any applicant, including internationals and including the waitlist.
I don't know about the other universities.


Now, this is not to say that they don't preferentially take kids from wealthy prep schools or kids whose zip codes or parents' professions indicate wealth. But they are need blind.

Anonymous wrote:What if you apply for financial aid but don't get any? Are you still considered full pay?

Nope. If you apply for financial aid they assume you are not full pay. Full pay families don’t bother to fill out the form or indicate need.

What if you apply for financial aid but don't get any? Are you still considered full pay?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

My full pay kid was waitlisted at a school where she was at the 75% for grades and test scores. Didn’t seem to help her at all.

It didn't seem to help her *enough*.

^^ disagree with that first part based on our child's reality. 4.81 WGPA, 35 ACT, NMS, ECs, leadership, full pay and rejected at 2 of these and WL at 1 and then rejected at another: UCs, Michigan, Texas, and UNC

For admissions to T20 private schools, being full pay really doesn't matter. Obviously, it will matter at publics like the UCs, Michigan, Texas, and UNC, which give almost no financial aid to OOS students. But for schools like Princeton, Rice, MIT, Northwestern and similar, being full pay will have no bearing on admissions.

Around the 30s - say NYU and Lehigh and BU - being full pay starts to become an advantage.

One thing that colleges don't advertise is that most (all?) "need blind" schools are not need blind for their wait list. So, look at schools that have gone to their wait list in the past.

Anonymous wrote:Brown
Dartmouth
Vanderbilt
Georgetown
WashU

And the gold star = UChicago