Your odds aren't any better at these schools if you're not a faculty kid, legacy, athlete, or URM. Only exception might by in-state publics like Boston Latin and Lexington, but even then, you're competing against a lot of faculty/legacy kids. Just look at when GDS had crazy Harvard stats last year, but it turned out most were legacy. I know very smart folks who went to Andover and they ended up at schools like Barnard, Dartmouth, Bates, BC, etc. that they applied ED. The competition is fierce because 75% of the kids would have no trouble with Ivy academics and everyone is applying to the same colleges.

Anonymous wrote:What’s with all of the Ivy bashing recently?

New RWNJ talking point released?

After the abolishment of affirmative action, there is no long any quid in the quid pro quo to leave the elite institutions alone for their elitist practices.
No one really complained about legacy until they got rid of affirmative action, it was always a problem but as long as they gave preferences to preferred racial groups.
No one really complained about donors or athletes or donors until they got rid of racial preferences.
Racial preferences acting as a moral shield from criticism for things like legacy, donors preferences, athletic preferences, etc.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TL/DR: Feeder schools exist, but the only one in the DMV is Thomas Jefferson.

[My 2 cents: the claim that it’s cause and not effect is delusional. You can tell yourself that Andover et al have somehow combed through and selected the very brightest kids in America, but that’s just silly. Only someone very deep in the Ivy League/New England bubble would even try to argue that. The kids at those schools are bright, but they don’t even scratch the surface of the talent that’s out there.]

https://interactives.thecrimson.com/2024/news/feeders

Not surprised the only feeder in the DMV is TJ. I don't think DMV is known nationally for best private schools - that honor goes to NYC, MA followed by SF Bay. DC privates only get noticed because a presidential kid is temporarily going there for one or two terms. That made Sidwell sort of famous but it can't compare to the Philips schools in MA, the NYC or SF Bay privates, etc.

Harvard Westlake in Southern California is pretty competitive.

Anonymous wrote:I went to Andover.

Yes, kids there are very smart. No, of course they aren’t the only smart kids out there.

However, Andover is extremely rigorous. It’s basically a junior college. The preparation for college is therefore excellent.

Of course, there are also legacies and such, but don’t discount the importance of excellent preparation.

Andover selects students the same way as harvard. it is not a surprise that they send a lot of students there.

Wealthy legacies.
Top athletes in country club sports with decent academics.
Extremely intelligent students with no other hooks.

Combine that with the long history and relationship between the two as well as the geographic preference and it's not a surprise.

Yes, Andover provides great preparation for college but it's not really much better than the prep at any of the Big 3 in the DC area.

Boston taxes are far, far, too low.

https://www.bostonherald.com/2021/04/13/boston-public-schools-fundraising-data-reveals-major-differences-between-schools/

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TL/DR: Feeder schools exist, but the only one in the DMV is Thomas Jefferson.

[My 2 cents: the claim that it’s cause and not effect is delusional. You can tell yourself that Andover et al have somehow combed through and selected the very brightest kids in America, but that’s just silly. Only someone very deep in the Ivy League/New England bubble would even try to argue that. The kids at those schools are bright, but they don’t even scratch the surface of the talent that’s out there.]

https://interactives.thecrimson.com/2024/news/feeders

Not surprised the only feeder in the DMV is TJ. I don't think DMV is known nationally for best private schools - that honor goes to NYC, MA followed by SF Bay. DC privates only get noticed because a presidential kid is temporarily going there for one or two terms. That made Sidwell sort of famous but it can't compare to the Philips schools in MA, the NYC or SF Bay privates, etc.

DC area is a more democratic and equitable area with fewer incredible wealthy 0.1%ers. also lower population and lower population density density to support schools with sufficient ultra wealthy population in commuting distance.

http://www.usa.com/rank/us--population-density--metro-area-rank.htm

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Anonymous wrote:How does a public school Range and Latin spend $34,000 per student?

The same way all public schools do - they independently raise money outside the budget. Just look around DC - there’s gross disparity for all public schools.

“After six years of campaigning and soliciting gifts from 8,450 donors, a total of $54,040,201 was raised in support of America's first public school.”

https://www.bls.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=346692&type=d&pREC_ID=652164#:~:text=After%20six%20years%20of%20campaigning,of%20America's%20first%20public%20school.

That's wild!
Openly bragging about their "first public school" operating like an exclusive private!

Lexington High grad here but not from an affluent family. I graduated decades ago but still have friends and family there. Lexington High is a big public high school. It has more students than Jackson Reed in DC. My Senior graduating class was larger than my small liberal arts college class. It also prepares it’s students who are focused and engaged in learning very well. People buy in Lexington for its school system. A lot of families value education, priorotize it, and it shows.

Anonymous wrote:TL/DR: Feeder schools exist, but the only one in the DMV is Thomas Jefferson.

[My 2 cents: the claim that it’s cause and not effect is delusional. You can tell yourself that Andover et al have somehow combed through and selected the very brightest kids in America, but that’s just silly. Only someone very deep in the Ivy League/New England bubble would even try to argue that. The kids at those schools are bright, but they don’t even scratch the surface of the talent that’s out there.]

https://interactives.thecrimson.com/2024/news/feeders

Not surprised the only feeder in the DMV is TJ. I don't think DMV is known nationally for best private schools - that honor goes to NYC, MA followed by SF Bay. DC privates only get noticed because a presidential kid is temporarily going there for one or two terms. That made Sidwell sort of famous but it can't compare to the Philips schools in MA, the NYC or SF Bay privates, etc.

Anonymous wrote:How does a public school Range and Latin spend $34,000 per student?

The same way all public schools do - they independently raise money outside the budget. Just look around DC - there’s gross disparity for all public schools.

“After six years of campaigning and soliciting gifts from 8,450 donors, a total of $54,040,201 was raised in support of America's first public school.”

https://www.bls.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=346692&type=d&pREC_ID=652164#:~:text=After%20six%20years%20of%20campaigning,of%20America's%20first%20public%20school.

Boston Latin represent!

Anonymous wrote:TL/DR: Feeder schools exist, but the only one in the DMV is Thomas Jefferson.

[My 2 cents: the claim that it’s cause and not effect is delusional. You can tell yourself that Andover et al have somehow combed through and selected the very brightest kids in America, but that’s just silly. Only someone very deep in the Ivy League/New England bubble would even try to argue that. The kids at those schools are bright, but they don’t even scratch the surface of the talent that’s out there.]

https://interactives.thecrimson.com/2024/news/feeders

They have a list on this link with 184 schools that sent 10+ students since 2009. I saw Walt Whitman, Montgomery Blair, Sidwell Friends there

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Anonymous wrote:Thread already exists https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1240148.page

Sorry, meant to post this is the duplicate thread, but hey…bump.

Duplicate of what?

Anonymous wrote:Why do you need to say "Crimson"? It's Harvard. Do you also say Yale Dark Blue?

Go back to bed, sweetie. It's past your bed time.

Anonymous wrote:Wow. If ever Harvard wanted to practice what it preaches, it might think about drawing on the talent of the other 99.97% of high schools out there.

The most hypocritical institution in the world.

https://college.harvard.edu/admissions/why-harvard/diversity-and-access

Each year 1200 high schools send students to Harvard, moron.

When half the best students in a whole county go to the county magnet or top private, then yeah, several of them will get into Harvard.

What would or should a college discriminate against top students who seek out a rigorous high school?