Anonymous
11/16/2024 09:50
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
Rights for gay people to marry
Rights for women to receive health care
rights of atheists are rights for women to receive healthcare?
Women don’t have rights to receive healthcare unless it comes from atheists?
Are you drunk, high, and/or experiencing a mental health crisis?
DP - since you insulted PP who tried to answer your incredibly stupid question sincerely and is probably a nice person, I will tell you that you are a petulant a-hole because you knew exactly what they meant, and if you are the one who asked the question, asked it only to set the stage for your display of petulance.
Religious people infringe on the rights of everyone with their religion-based positions, and that is unconstitutional and wrong.
Can anyone answer sincerely: what are atheist rights? How are these rights different from human rights?
“Human rights are universally recognized moral principles or norms that establish standards of human behavior and are often protected by both national and international laws. These rights are considered inherent and inalienable, meaning they belong to every individual simply by virtue of being human, regardless of characteristics like nationality, ethnicity, religion, or socio-economic status.”
What human rights are atheists denied, specifically by religious people?
Do atheists require different “rights” than other humans require? What are they?
What rights are atheists denied in the United States?
Religious consciences laws that allow pharmacists not to offer birth control or hormonal meds to trans folks, religion in our judicial system that is used to proffer bad science and stem the flow of plan b or to overturn Oberfgell, gay conversion therapy, I mean those are just for starters…you’ve got religious influence in so many areas of government shaping policy. Even marijuana laws are influenced by conservative religious law makers who view marijuana as pushing people away from God so they should be banned, even if there is harm reduction (less family separation) from legalizing weed.
Surely you can see these kinds of things, right?
a woman who is carrying a dead a fetus is Texas died recently because of laws designed by religious folks. I mean you do see this right?
Anonymous
11/16/2024 09:42
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
Put that back in your pants. No one wants to see it.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 09:40
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
Not all Christians believe this. The above is an extreme form of Christianity.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 09:34
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us atheists come from religious backgrounds, and have lots of direct experience with religion.
And as others have mentioned, many of us are directly impacted by religious imposition upon us, in the United States and elsewhere.
How? You don’t have any examples of how religious people and their beliefs directly impact atheists. You just keep repeating they do.
DP - sometimes the impact is in subtle ways, for instance on this forum, where OP (me) asked a question inoffensively and sincerely and received responses that were not in kind.
Here are examples of religious imposition: mentioning God or Jesus and assuming that other people will agree and/or getting offended if they don't. Deferring to mentions of religions other than your own, but not to mentions of atheism. Not liking it when it's mentioned that God is supernatural, like fairies, Santa Claus, etc.
^^ This is the answer atheists give when asked what human rights they are denied in the United States and worldwide.
None of those things, if they happen, violate your human rights.
The above is in response to give "examples of how religious people and their beliefs directly impact atheists". Nothing about human right in the US and worldwide. Check back to see for yourself. I hope pp is not saying that it's OK to treat atheists poorly as mentioned above because "None of those things, if they happen, violate your human rights."
Anonymous
11/16/2024 09:30
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
How very Christian of you!
Know what? There is not a single atheist who hopes you and your family suffer for eternity. That's one of the things that makes us better than you.
“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”
― Mahatma Gandhi
Anonymous
11/16/2024 09:19
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
What the atheist wants is the right to not be judged for their sins, especially homosexuality and adultery which carried a death sentence in Israel until Rome demolished their temple and thrashed their nation, dispersing its people.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
The atheist wants “No God” so as to do what is right in their own eyes, such as changing the grammar to apply pronouns for their sinful and perverse actions.
In the end, the atheist is going to get his wish: no God. The books will be opened, deeds judged, and all those who were not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire to perish.
You avoid this Lake by believing upon the name of the only begotten son of God: Jesus. There is no other name by which you can be saved, not Moses, Buddha, Allah, or any Hindu deity nor amy other name.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 09:09
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us atheists come from religious backgrounds, and have lots of direct experience with religion.
And as others have mentioned, many of us are directly impacted by religious imposition upon us, in the United States and elsewhere.
How? You don’t have any examples of how religious people and their beliefs directly impact atheists. You just keep repeating they do.
DP - sometimes the impact is in subtle ways, for instance on this forum, where OP (me) asked a question inoffensively and sincerely and received responses that were not in kind.
Here are examples of religious imposition: mentioning God or Jesus and assuming that other people will agree and/or getting offended if they don't. Deferring to mentions of religions other than your own, but not to mentions of atheism. Not liking it when it's mentioned that God is supernatural, like fairies, Santa Claus, etc.
^^ This is the answer atheists give when asked what human rights they are denied in the United States and worldwide.
None of those things, if they happen, violate your human rights.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 09:05
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I want to talk with similarly-minded people and I want religious people to think more about their beliefs.
I wish I had known about this forum when I was first questioning religion. It would have been very helpful to know that there are seemingly intelligent, good-humored and logical people who have rejected religion.
This is one of the few places that I feel free to discuss atheism. Being religious is the default position in the US, even though recent studies indicate that fewer people these days are religious.
Where do you live? Being religious certainly isn't the default position where I live and work in MoCo.
How do you know this? Seems like people would have to tell you that they aren't religious, or you'd have to ask them.
I find, here in DC, that people only tell me that they are not religious, after learning from me that I'm not religious.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 08:59
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does someone ask this question every so often?
It was not even a real question - rhetorical device to state why they post here
Why do you post here?
to communicate with other nonbelievers (as stated in the OP)
to communicate with believers -- specifically making them aware that the God they believe in is supernatural, like fairies and other things they no longer believe in.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 08:56
Subject: Re:Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Because religion infringes on the rights of atheist in the US, and all over the world.
What are the "rights of atheists" and how does posting here help?
Rights for gay people to marry
Rights for women to receive health care
rights of atheists are rights for women to receive healthcare?
Women don’t have rights to receive healthcare unless it comes from atheists?
Are you drunk, high, and/or experiencing a mental health crisis?
DP - since you insulted PP who tried to answer your incredibly stupid question sincerely and is probably a nice person, I will tell you that you are a petulant a-hole because you knew exactly what they meant, and if you are the one who asked the question, asked it only to set the stage for your display of petulance.
Religious people infringe on the rights of everyone with their religion-based positions, and that is unconstitutional and wrong.
Can anyone answer sincerely: what are atheist rights? How are these rights different from human rights?
“Human rights are universally recognized moral principles or norms that establish standards of human behavior and are often protected by both national and international laws. These rights are considered inherent and inalienable, meaning they belong to every individual simply by virtue of being human, regardless of characteristics like nationality, ethnicity, religion, or socio-economic status.”
What human rights are atheists denied, specifically by religious people?
Do atheists require different “rights” than other humans require? What are they?
What rights are atheists denied in the United States?
Doubling-down on the petulance after being called out on it. Nice. That's commitment.
You know the answers to all those questions, and you know PP was referring to basic human rights under the yoke of you religious bronze-age myth believing idiots who think the constitution is less important than your daddy-sky faerie and any one of the many the slavery-endorsing, anti-science, pedophilia and incest supporting, murderous books written by men but ascribed to him.
And every time you post another BS childish post you're going to get it in return, just like the paragraph above.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 08:55
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:I want to talk with similarly-minded people and I want religious people to think more about their beliefs.
I wish I had known about this forum when I was first questioning religion. It would have been very helpful to know that there are seemingly intelligent, good-humored and logical people who have rejected religion.
This is one of the few places that I feel free to discuss atheism. Being religious is the default position in the US, even though recent studies indicate that fewer people these days are religious.
Where do you live? Being religious certainly isn't the default position where I live and work in MoCo.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 08:49
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:I find this to be a very curious post. I grew up in a nominally Christian home with a family that did not truly understand Christianity. I became an atheist for more than 20 years before converting and becoming an evangelical about two years ago. It was the most unexpected turn of events in my life.
Living in the DC area and working in a very secular workplace, never, not once, in my time as an atheist did I feel out of place with religion. In fact, I assumed that the default was that nobody believed that stuff anymore. Everyone I worked with openly mocked evangelicals.
I have actually found it much harder when I swung back the other way. I realized that I didn’t know a single other person outside of my church who believed what I believed now. Yet I believe it as truth and so I couldn’t just ignore it. It has become core to my identity. I have since formed a lot of networks through social media and other venues and it isn’t as lonely as it once was.
But I say all this because — I don’t know why you would feel like you need to come to this message board (of all message boards!) to find a sense of community as an atheist. There are atheists everywhere, and they far outnumber Christians or people of other faiths who take their faith seriously and openly, at least in the DMV (maybe not in other parts of the country though).
Evangelicalism is one of many forms of Christianity and there is no formal conversion process for it (as there is for Catholicism and Judaism). Evangelicalism is like atheism in that respect, except atheism is not a religion and thus does not require conversion when deciding to no longer believe in God.
Being evangelical is a form of Christianity that, according to my understanding, requires adherents to state their religious beliefs openly and to attempt to convert others, including other non-evangelical Christians. I'd guess that some of stigma you feel comes from other Christians, who seem like atheists to you, but not at all to themselves.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 08:24
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why does someone ask this question every so often?
It was not even a real question - rhetorical device to state why they post here
Why do you post here?
Anonymous
11/16/2024 08:22
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us atheists come from religious backgrounds, and have lots of direct experience with religion.
And as others have mentioned, many of us are directly impacted by religious imposition upon us, in the United States and elsewhere.
How? You don’t have any examples of how religious people and their beliefs directly impact atheists. You just keep repeating they do.
DP - sometimes the impact is in subtle ways, for instance on this forum, where OP (me) asked a question inoffensively and sincerely and received responses that were not in kind.
Here are examples of religious imposition: mentioning God or Jesus and assuming that other people will agree and/or getting offended if they don't. Deferring to mentions of religions other than your own, but not to mentions of atheism. Not liking it when it's mentioned that God is supernatural, like fairies, Santa Claus, etc.
Anonymous
11/16/2024 07:03
Subject: Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Many of us atheists come from religious backgrounds, and have lots of direct experience with religion.
And as others have mentioned, many of us are directly impacted by religious imposition upon us, in the United States and elsewhere.
How? You don’t have any examples of how religious people and their beliefs directly impact atheists. You just keep repeating they do.
Are you a pro-choice woman in America?