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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

Full time AAP is not intense for an averagely bright kid - either the LA or the math. I had one genuinely advanced kid and one merely hard worker who was bright (it was the hard worker who was bright who seemed more stereotypically AAP on the surface). Both have done very well in the program. The only kids who really seem to struggle are those who legitimately aren't good readers.

Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Another area to develop in your child, and one of the HOPE ratings, is whether your child is:

“Is sensitive to larger or deeper issues of human concern? “

Talk to you child.

I have heard that there are some kids who leave the LIV class for math when other kids come in. You can also choose to move to the other class if it turns out that it is too much.

The parents who are complaining on this board are the same ones who think that more kids should be taking Algebra in 6th grade, they are far more interested in acceleration and think FCPS doesn’t do enough. I know of kids who were in the LIV class at a Center that choose 7th H and not Algebra 1 H in 7th grade. There are places for kids to slow down if the acceleration is too great.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

For kids who are ahead in math and LA it is not that intense. Most of the kids in LIV do just fine, there is a small percentage that struggle with the math or the LA. I think it is more common that the struggle in math. LA is not DS strength and he has an A in MS AAP LA but there have been a few assignments where he has needed to pay attention to the Teachers comments and learn from them, which is what we want. The math acceleration is harder because the Teachers are counting on the kids picking up concepts quickly and not having to spend a lot of time reviewing concepts.

Thanks. I'm the pp (not the one with the "calm" kid lol--mine is energetic). My kid got to a place where he's ahead in math and LA because we taught him a bit at home. I am not sure if that means he picks up concepts quickly or not--I don't really have anything to compare to and he's an only child. It could simply be that we introduced him to things they would not really teach at school (he was in a Montessori until 1st grade and while they introduced academic content there was not much support to actually learn much unless I was doing stuff with him at home).

So, I guess we will see. I worry a little because I hear people on here occasionally saying it's intense and that some kids couldn't hack it. I don't think that would be my kid but how would I know?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

May I ask what types of kids your child has found? My child is smart, mature, peaceful, and calm. They do not relate to the genius ADHD types with the impulse control issues. There’s nothing wrong with the ADHD types, it’s just that my child can’t relate to that kind of energy and they wouldn’t thrive in a setting full of high drama, big feeling, distracting, and unmedicated ADHD kids.

Other smart, nerdy kids who have similar interests.

Are these smart nerdy kids high strung or calm?

You should probably just avoid public school - for the sake of the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

May I ask what types of kids your child has found? My child is smart, mature, peaceful, and calm. They do not relate to the genius ADHD types with the impulse control issues. There’s nothing wrong with the ADHD types, it’s just that my child can’t relate to that kind of energy and they wouldn’t thrive in a setting full of high drama, big feeling, distracting, and unmedicated ADHD kids.

You need to leave public schools because there are lots of ADHD kids and lots of non-ADHD kids that have energy and are easily distracted.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

May I ask what types of kids your child has found? My child is smart, mature, peaceful, and calm. They do not relate to the genius ADHD types with the impulse control issues. There’s nothing wrong with the ADHD types, it’s just that my child can’t relate to that kind of energy and they wouldn’t thrive in a setting full of high drama, big feeling, distracting, and unmedicated ADHD kids.

Other smart, nerdy kids who have similar interests.

Are these smart nerdy kids high strung or calm?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

May I ask what types of kids your child has found? My child is smart, mature, peaceful, and calm. They do not relate to the genius ADHD types with the impulse control issues. There’s nothing wrong with the ADHD types, it’s just that my child can’t relate to that kind of energy and they wouldn’t thrive in a setting full of high drama, big feeling, distracting, and unmedicated ADHD kids.

Other smart, nerdy kids who have similar interests.

If your child can't handle being around other children, maybe home school?

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

May I ask what types of kids your child has found? My child is smart, mature, peaceful, and calm. They do not relate to the genius ADHD types with the impulse control issues. There’s nothing wrong with the ADHD types, it’s just that my child can’t relate to that kind of energy and they wouldn’t thrive in a setting full of high drama, big feeling, distracting, and unmedicated ADHD kids.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

Thanks. I'm assuming they are at a center and not local level IV? I've heard the centers are more rigorous but not sure. Our base school is a center and for Level II DC gets subject specific advanced work (LA and math). That said, this is what is on paper; I'm not sure what it translates to in practice (DC is tight lipped!) I would assume Level III would be something similar but maybe pull outs for these subjects instead of small group work within the class (which is what Level II is).

At our non-center base school my kid was marked for Level II but we were informed by the AART that it just meant the normal differentiation that should be happening in the classroom anyway - no extra pull outs or anything like that. It sounds like at other schools they may get more, but again, that's totally at the discretion of each school. We moved to the center school for LIV in hopes of increased rigor.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

For kids who are ahead in math and LA it is not that intense. Most of the kids in LIV do just fine, there is a small percentage that struggle with the math or the LA. I think it is more common that the struggle in math. LA is not DS strength and he has an A in MS AAP LA but there have been a few assignments where he has needed to pay attention to the Teachers comments and learn from them, which is what we want. The math acceleration is harder because the Teachers are counting on the kids picking up concepts quickly and not having to spend a lot of time reviewing concepts.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

LIII is more critical thinking skills with some of the traditional AAP LA elements. DS’s class actually learned about different math bases in LIII in third grade. It is one hour a week and not all schools are good about doing it weekly or for 1 hour. It is not Advanced LA.

Advanced Math is normally a class of it’s own starting in 3rd grade or 5th grade. There is an entire math class that meets 5 days a week in order to accelerate the students. Our school had an Advanced Math group in 3-4th grade, so the kids were in the regular math class and the Teacher meet with them as a group a few times during the week. The full class started in 5th grade when the kids skipped to 6th grade math.

An Advanced LA class would work similar to Advanced Math. It would allow the kids who are strong in LA to have the support that they need in LA but not struggle in the Advanced Math. Ideally they would have an Advanced class for each of the core subject areas.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

Thanks. I'm assuming they are at a center and not local level IV? I've heard the centers are more rigorous but not sure. Our base school is a center and for Level II DC gets subject specific advanced work (LA and math). That said, this is what is on paper; I'm not sure what it translates to in practice (DC is tight lipped!) I would assume Level III would be something similar but maybe pull outs for these subjects instead of small group work within the class (which is what Level II is).

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.

Level III varies widely by school. At our base school it's a one hour pull out once a week that is mostly critical thinking exercises. Then advanced math starts separately in 5th grade.

As for full time AAP, my kid hasn't found it intense - they're still asking me to supplement at home because school is too slow. It's been great socially, though - they found their people.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid was exactly like you described during 1st and 2nd grade . The very reason that his teacher mentioned regarding his AAP rejection . AAP is very intense and they dont want to waste their time in working on behavior issues of the child .Also adding to it ,now the HOPE has lot do in checking on behavior of the kid .The points such as self aware ,being leader in the group all these are related to behavior.below is the HOPE that you are looking for

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf
Dont loose your hope . Kids tend to change progressively. Keep working on and now they have changes AAP process you can refer your kid until 7th grade .

Really?

For some kids, yes, it is intense. Kids who are strong in LA and not math struggle with the math. Kids who are strong in math and not LA can struggle with the LA. I suspect most of the kids are fine in AAP but there are kids who struggle because they are not strong in one of the core areas.

I would argue those kids probably shouldn’t be in AAP.

I would agree. Normally the kids really strong at math but on grade level or slightly ahead in LA end up in the regular class but in Advanced Math. There is no Advanced LA so the really strong in LA kids end up in LIV even though they are more likely to struggle in math. They are the kids who are not likely to have the chance to take Algebra 1 H.

I'm confused. I thought there is advanced LA? Isn't that level III with subject specific enrichment?

My DC is advanced in both LA and math but the comment that AAP is intense gives me pause. DC is advanced and doing well and seemed to learn without too much effort (mostly at home with my support) but I don't know if that means they are level IV material. I guess that's what the committee will decide.