Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax’s 06/07’s are in too.

If Union's 06/07s hang on to 2nd place, they have to also finish better than the 2nd place team in the Ohio Valley conference, and Ohio Valley plays in the Spring so we won't know for awhile. I would give them a half a spot based on where they are now.

Top 2 teams go, no?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I could be off but by my count and the last population numbers of NoVA (3.5 million about, which also includes as far south as Spotsylvania) we have about 20 clubs in total between ECNL-RL, ECNL, an GA. That is a hell of a lot of clubs for only that many people, might even be more than the DFW area of Texas, which has a higher population and I'm pretty sure less clubs.

Places like DFW and Socal have huge latin communities. They grew up with and have played soccer their entire lives. They know all the tricks and they know what quality soccer looks like.

Unfortunately many NoVA clubs are just cash registers aimed at rich parents.

Not important to the girls side. Almost no Latinas.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw another post about how clubs are doing and thought I'd broach this topic here, including all VA teams.

Below is a list of teams currently in playoff positions going into the last few games of the year (minus 2012 and 2011 teams which still have an entire spring of matches)

Arlington: 3 Teams - 2012, 2011, 2009
Beach: 0 Teams
Fairfax: 2 Teams - 2012, 2010
NVA: 1 Team - 2012
Richmond: 4 Teams - 2012, 2011, 2009, 2008
VDA: 5 Teams - 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007/2006

The most concerning thing is the lack of older teams that are in playoff positions in the local area. Maybe other markets are doing a better job at developing, or maybe they just have better players.

I don't understand your 'older team' analysis. NOVA clubs make up 1/3 of the Mid Atlantic. They hold 1.5 of the 1.5 06/07 spots, 1 of the 4 2008 spots, and 2 of the 4 2009 spots. Overall, that's 4.5 spots out of 9.5 available, or almost half the spots.

This, the analysis and the numbers, for how many DMV kids actually playing in college/grade, 1 or 2.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Greater Miami/Ft. Lauderdale - 6,139,340 (1 ECNL Club); 6,139,340/Per Club
2. Greater Houston - 7,340,118 (2 ECNL Clubs); 3,670,059/Per Club
3. Phoenix Greater Area - 5,015,678 (2 ECNL Clubs); 2,507,839/Per Club
4. New York/North NJ/NE PA/East CT - 19,617,869 (8 ECNL Clubs); 2,452,234/Per Club
5. Greater Chicago - 9,441,957 (4 ECNL Clubs); 2,360,489/Per Club
6. Greater Pittsburgh - 2,349,172 (1 ECNL Club); 2,349,172/Per Club
7. Greater Las Vegas - 2,322,985 (1 ECNL Club); 2,322,985/Per Club
8. Greater Kansas City - 2,209,494 (1 ECNL Club); 2,209,494/Per Club
9. Greater Nashville - 2,046,828 (1 ECNL Club); 2,046,828/Per Club
10. Greater VA Beach/Norfolk/Williamsburg 1,806,840 (1 ECNL Club); 1,806,840/Per Club
11. LA; San Diego/Chula Vista/Carlsbad; Riverside/San Bernadino - 20,816,088 (12 ECNL Clubs); 1,734,674/Per Club
Boston Greater Area - 4,900,550 (3 ECNL Clubs) 1,633,517/Per Club
St. Louis Greater Area - 2,801,309 (2 ECNL Clubs); 1,400,654/Per Club
Dallas Ft. Worth - 7,943,685 (6 ECNL Clubs); 1,323,948/Per Club
Greater Hotlanta - 6,222,106 (5 ECNL Clubs); 1,244,421/Per Club
Washington DC/Baltimore/Philadelphia - 15,450,592 (13 ECNL Clubs); 1,188,508/Per Club
Detroit Greater Area - 4,345,761 (4 ECNL Clubs); 1,086,440/Per Club
Greater San Fran/Oakland/Sacramento - 8,934,825 (10 ECNL Clubs) 893,483/Per Club
Seattle/Tacoma Greater Area - 4,034,238 (5 ECNL Clubs) 806,847/Per Club
Source:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/183600/population-of-metropolitan-areas-in-the-us/

This is more information than I want to know, but where did you copy pasta this from and are you including all ECNL clubs RL and NL or just NL ones? Data should reflect both IMO, and shouldn't include baltimore or philly

It's just Girls' clubs with ECNL teams. RL or GA not considered since ECNL is the top league where the top players are. Baltimore and Philly included as to Los Angelos/San Diego. Tried to keep the amount of area covered by each kind of close. Beggers can't be choosers.

Thanks for compiling all of that!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw another post about how clubs are doing and thought I'd broach this topic here, including all VA teams.

Below is a list of teams currently in playoff positions going into the last few games of the year (minus 2012 and 2011 teams which still have an entire spring of matches)

Arlington: 3 Teams - 2012, 2011, 2009
Beach: 0 Teams
Fairfax: 2 Teams - 2012, 2010
NVA: 1 Team - 2012
Richmond: 4 Teams - 2012, 2011, 2009, 2008
VDA: 5 Teams - 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007/2006

The most concerning thing is the lack of older teams that are in playoff positions in the local area. Maybe other markets are doing a better job at developing, or maybe they just have better players.

I don't understand your 'older team' analysis. NOVA clubs make up 1/3 of the Mid Atlantic. They hold 1.5 of the 1.5 06/07 spots, 1 of the 4 2008 spots, and 2 of the 4 2009 spots. Overall, that's 4.5 spots out of 9.5 available, or almost half the spots.

When put like that, batting .500 is pretty good IMO.

Anonymous wrote:Saw another post about how clubs are doing and thought I'd broach this topic here, including all VA teams.

Below is a list of teams currently in playoff positions going into the last few games of the year (minus 2012 and 2011 teams which still have an entire spring of matches)

Arlington: 3 Teams - 2012, 2011, 2009
Beach: 0 Teams
Fairfax: 2 Teams - 2012, 2010
NVA: 1 Team - 2012
Richmond: 4 Teams - 2012, 2011, 2009, 2008
VDA: 5 Teams - 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007/2006

The most concerning thing is the lack of older teams that are in playoff positions in the local area. Maybe other markets are doing a better job at developing, or maybe they just have better players.

I don't understand your 'older team' analysis. NOVA clubs make up 1/3 of the Mid Atlantic. They hold 1.5 of the 1.5 06/07 spots, 1 of the 4 2008 spots, and 2 of the 4 2009 spots. Overall, that's 4.5 spots out of 9.5 available, or almost half the spots.

Anonymous wrote:You're discussing things and consolidations that are totally out of your control.

Control what you can control and put your kid in the best situation to be seen and succeed on a national level. There's really only one option.

VDA

You're discussing things and consolidations that are totally out of your control.

Control what you can control and put your kid in the best situation to be seen and succeed on a national level. There's really only one option.

There's also mega clubs that are actually made up of several smaller "clubs" funnel all their best players into one team. The top team is usually funded (aka free).

https://www.nationalssoccer.com

Nationals is the largest travel soccer club in Michigan with over 3,200 players on over 280 premier/select teams. In addition, there are over 1,500 youth ages 4-10 participating in our recreational programs in Junior Nationals and United Soccer League.

Our operations span Southeast Michigan and Mid-Michigan in 15 locations, attracting players from at least 9 counties (Bay, Clinton, Genesee, Ingham, Macomb, Midland, Oakland, Saginaw, St Clair, Wayne).

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Greater Miami/Ft. Lauderdale - 6,139,340 (1 ECNL Club); 6,139,340/Per Club
2. Greater Houston - 7,340,118 (2 ECNL Clubs); 3,670,059/Per Club
3. Phoenix Greater Area - 5,015,678 (2 ECNL Clubs); 2,507,839/Per Club
4. New York/North NJ/NE PA/East CT - 19,617,869 (8 ECNL Clubs); 2,452,234/Per Club
5. Greater Chicago - 9,441,957 (4 ECNL Clubs); 2,360,489/Per Club
6. Greater Pittsburgh - 2,349,172 (1 ECNL Club); 2,349,172/Per Club
7. Greater Las Vegas - 2,322,985 (1 ECNL Club); 2,322,985/Per Club
8. Greater Kansas City - 2,209,494 (1 ECNL Club); 2,209,494/Per Club
9. Greater Nashville - 2,046,828 (1 ECNL Club); 2,046,828/Per Club
10. Greater VA Beach/Norfolk/Williamsburg 1,806,840 (1 ECNL Club); 1,806,840/Per Club
11. LA; San Diego/Chula Vista/Carlsbad; Riverside/San Bernadino - 20,816,088 (12 ECNL Clubs); 1,734,674/Per Club
Boston Greater Area - 4,900,550 (3 ECNL Clubs) 1,633,517/Per Club
St. Louis Greater Area - 2,801,309 (2 ECNL Clubs); 1,400,654/Per Club
Dallas Ft. Worth - 7,943,685 (6 ECNL Clubs); 1,323,948/Per Club
Greater Hotlanta - 6,222,106 (5 ECNL Clubs); 1,244,421/Per Club
Washington DC/Baltimore/Philadelphia - 15,450,592 (13 ECNL Clubs); 1,188,508/Per Club
Detroit Greater Area - 4,345,761 (4 ECNL Clubs); 1,086,440/Per Club
Greater San Fran/Oakland/Sacramento - 8,934,825 (10 ECNL Clubs) 893,483/Per Club
Seattle/Tacoma Greater Area - 4,034,238 (5 ECNL Clubs) 806,847/Per Club
Source:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/183600/population-of-metropolitan-areas-in-the-us/

This is more information than I want to know, but where did you copy pasta this from and are you including all ECNL clubs RL and NL or just NL ones? Data should reflect both IMO, and shouldn't include baltimore or philly

It's just Girls' clubs with ECNL teams. RL or GA not considered since ECNL is the top league where the top players are. Baltimore and Philly included as to Los Angelos/San Diego. Tried to keep the amount of area covered by each kind of close. Beggers can't be choosers.

To summarize, I would say St. Louis does the best for what it is working with (which matches D1 recruiting numbers) and SoCal is 2nd which ironically matches it's numbers. One could easily make an argument for San Fransisco as well. Statistically speaking, the higher on the list, the more people an ECNL club has access too. FC Prime in Miami should be killing it as well as Houston.

I think this just proves the theory of player development and coaching.

Anonymous wrote:1. Greater Miami/Ft. Lauderdale - 6,139,340 (1 ECNL Club); 6,139,340/Per Club
2. Greater Houston - 7,340,118 (2 ECNL Clubs); 3,670,059/Per Club
3. Phoenix Greater Area - 5,015,678 (2 ECNL Clubs); 2,507,839/Per Club
4. New York/North NJ/NE PA/East CT - 19,617,869 (8 ECNL Clubs); 2,452,234/Per Club
5. Greater Chicago - 9,441,957 (4 ECNL Clubs); 2,360,489/Per Club
6. Greater Pittsburgh - 2,349,172 (1 ECNL Club); 2,349,172/Per Club
7. Greater Las Vegas - 2,322,985 (1 ECNL Club); 2,322,985/Per Club
8. Greater Kansas City - 2,209,494 (1 ECNL Club); 2,209,494/Per Club
9. Greater Nashville - 2,046,828 (1 ECNL Club); 2,046,828/Per Club
10. Greater VA Beach/Norfolk/Williamsburg 1,806,840 (1 ECNL Club); 1,806,840/Per Club
11. LA; San Diego/Chula Vista/Carlsbad; Riverside/San Bernadino - 20,816,088 (12 ECNL Clubs); 1,734,674/Per Club
Boston Greater Area - 4,900,550 (3 ECNL Clubs) 1,633,517/Per Club
St. Louis Greater Area - 2,801,309 (2 ECNL Clubs); 1,400,654/Per Club
Dallas Ft. Worth - 7,943,685 (6 ECNL Clubs); 1,323,948/Per Club
Greater Hotlanta - 6,222,106 (5 ECNL Clubs); 1,244,421/Per Club
Washington DC/Baltimore/Philadelphia - 15,450,592 (13 ECNL Clubs); 1,188,508/Per Club
Detroit Greater Area - 4,345,761 (4 ECNL Clubs); 1,086,440/Per Club
Greater San Fran/Oakland/Sacramento - 8,934,825 (10 ECNL Clubs) 893,483/Per Club
Seattle/Tacoma Greater Area - 4,034,238 (5 ECNL Clubs) 806,847/Per Club
Source:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/183600/population-of-metropolitan-areas-in-the-us/

This is more information than I want to know, but where did you copy pasta this from and are you including all ECNL clubs RL and NL or just NL ones? Data should reflect both IMO, and shouldn't include baltimore or philly

This is Player Pool Per Area by population Vs. the amount of ECNL Clubs.

1. Greater Miami/Ft. Lauderdale - 6,139,340 (1 ECNL Club); 6,139,340/Per Club
2. Greater Houston - 7,340,118 (2 ECNL Clubs); 3,670,059/Per Club
3. Phoenix Greater Area - 5,015,678 (2 ECNL Clubs); 2,507,839/Per Club
4. New York/North NJ/NE PA/East CT - 19,617,869 (8 ECNL Clubs); 2,452,234/Per Club
5. Greater Chicago - 9,441,957 (4 ECNL Clubs); 2,360,489/Per Club
6. Greater Pittsburgh - 2,349,172 (1 ECNL Club); 2,349,172/Per Club
7. Greater Las Vegas - 2,322,985 (1 ECNL Club); 2,322,985/Per Club
8. Greater Kansas City - 2,209,494 (1 ECNL Club); 2,209,494/Per Club
9. Greater Nashville - 2,046,828 (1 ECNL Club); 2,046,828/Per Club
10. Greater VA Beach/Norfolk/Williamsburg 1,806,840 (1 ECNL Club); 1,806,840/Per Club
11. LA; San Diego/Chula Vista/Carlsbad; Riverside/San Bernadino - 20,816,088 (12 ECNL Clubs); 1,734,674/Per Club
Boston Greater Area - 4,900,550 (3 ECNL Clubs) 1,633,517/Per Club
St. Louis Greater Area - 2,801,309 (2 ECNL Clubs); 1,400,654/Per Club
Dallas Ft. Worth - 7,943,685 (6 ECNL Clubs); 1,323,948/Per Club
Greater Hotlanta - 6,222,106 (5 ECNL Clubs); 1,244,421/Per Club
Washington DC/Baltimore/Philadelphia - 15,450,592 (13 ECNL Clubs); 1,188,508/Per Club
Detroit Greater Area - 4,345,761 (4 ECNL Clubs); 1,086,440/Per Club
Greater San Fran/Oakland/Sacramento - 8,934,825 (10 ECNL Clubs) 893,483/Per Club
Seattle/Tacoma Greater Area - 4,034,238 (5 ECNL Clubs) 806,847/Per Club
Source:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/183600/population-of-metropolitan-areas-in-the-us/

Anonymous wrote:Fairfax’s 06/07’s are in too.

If Union's 06/07s hang on to 2nd place, they have to also finish better than the 2nd place team in the Ohio Valley conference, and Ohio Valley plays in the Spring so we won't know for awhile. I would give them a half a spot based on where they are now.