Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 23:59     Subject: Cheating Culture
Disappointing but not shocking.
At our fcps school, there was a senior last year who proudly posted ED acceptance to UVA and it was well known that the student bragged to peers constantly about cheating on tests and homework assignments. Frustrating to other classmates in a test optional environment when GPA from a highly competitive “M” high school counts for so much.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 23:47     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:My teen reports cheating is rampant at their public school.


Which school? So I make sure my DC doesn’t apply there.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 23:26     Subject: Cheating Culture
My teen reports cheating is rampant at their public school.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 23:09     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cheating is pervasive these days. It starts in 9th grade or perhaps even earlier. It is very easy to cheat these days with online tests and ai


My son’s Catholic HS was tough on that. Written tests and in class writing. Scanned AI for papers. He’s always been honest Abe (Catholic guilt )- but wouldn’t even run his college essays thru ai merely for grammar edits. At an Ivy and highest grade in class on first paper- he actually learned to write himself!



Same. Mine cheated on a chemistry test and was suspended. He got a 0 and his grade was already low. He had to retake the class during the summer and he had to pay for it. Plus he couldn’t get a summer job because the class was from 8-12pm everyday with a few hours of homework. I was happy about all of the above.

I teach in public school and I have 7th graders who care barely compose a grammatically correct sentence. Our writing rubric mentions nothing about mechanics of writing. It’s pitiful. I am now an intervention teacher and I teach students who read many grade levels below. I’m shocked that kids in MS think that what makes a complete sentence is s capital letter and a period.


I’m pp. It’s why we pulled my sons out of public and sent them to an independent Catholic HS. Best $ ever spent. Consequences and actual writing instruction.


Because, of course, only private Catholic schools provide actual writing instruction.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 22:58     Subject: Re:Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:At Penn State DS takes his exams in a special room with cameras at every angle to discourage cheating


Plenty of exams are administered in person at public schools, UVA included. Ask me how I know.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 22:10     Subject: Re:Cheating Culture
At Penn State DS takes his exams in a special room with cameras at every angle to discourage cheating
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 21:58     Subject: Re:Cheating Culture
Here is the thing. When they get to med school- it’s obvious who cheated their way thru. They either know, or they don’t. And it doesn’t fly.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 21:56     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aren’t all of these “ADHD” extra time blah blah diagnoses a form of cheating? Yes. They are.


No. They are not. If a kid has a legitimate diagnosis from a qualified professional, that is not cheating. Sounds like maybe you are trying to justify your kid’s cheating through someone else’s disability.


I don't completely disagree with you but everyone knows that anyone can essentially purchase a "legitimate diagnosis" from a "qualified professional."
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 21:52     Subject: Cheating Culture
During COVID kids texted and FaceTimed during unproctored online exams. They get to college and many lazy instructors have the same kind of online exams with no proctor and no time limit. Kids are expected to follow the honor code of the college but yeah…no.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 21:08     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:If your not cheating, your not trying.


You should've cheated off someone who passed fifth grade English when you made this post.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 21:04     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Aren’t all of these “ADHD” extra time blah blah diagnoses a form of cheating? Yes. They are.


No. They are not. If a kid has a legitimate diagnosis from a qualified professional, that is not cheating. Sounds like maybe you are trying to justify your kid’s cheating through someone else’s disability.


The diagnosis is frequently BS.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 21:03     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:Cheating starts at an early age and continues. Cheating/scamming are promoted and respected for some cultures and groups. This will eventually lead for companies to give tests during interviews. And ultimately devalues the degree from that institution.


Really? Which cultures?
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 19:03     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Cheating is pervasive these days. It starts in 9th grade or perhaps even earlier. It is very easy to cheat these days with online tests and ai


My son’s Catholic HS was tough on that. Written tests and in class writing. Scanned AI for papers. He’s always been honest Abe (Catholic guilt )- but wouldn’t even run his college essays thru ai merely for grammar edits. At an Ivy and highest grade in class on first paper- he actually learned to write himself!



Same. Mine cheated on a chemistry test and was suspended. He got a 0 and his grade was already low. He had to retake the class during the summer and he had to pay for it. Plus he couldn’t get a summer job because the class was from 8-12pm everyday with a few hours of homework. I was happy about all of the above.

I teach in public school and I have 7th graders who care barely compose a grammatically correct sentence. Our writing rubric mentions nothing about mechanics of writing. It’s pitiful. I am now an intervention teacher and I teach students who read many grade levels below. I’m shocked that kids in MS think that what makes a complete sentence is s capital letter and a period.


I’m pp. It’s why we pulled my sons out of public and sent them to an independent Catholic HS. Best $ ever spent. Consequences and actual writing instruction.
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 18:12     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:When did it become so pervasive? I knew people who cheated in college but few and far between. I don’t know anyone who cheated in grad school.

My daughter reports back from college at UVA that everyone cheats, all the time. I feel like she is trying to get me to say it’s ok, which I refuse to do. (If she cheats, which I doubt, she doesn’t do it very well because her grades aren’t fantastic.). I’m just shocked at how pervasive it is and it seems the school is aware but lets it go. When did the culture change?


Really? At UVA? Not at all my DCs experience there.



My UVA grad says none of this is true. Everyone he knew adheredto the Honor system
Anonymous
Post 11/07/2024 18:11     Subject: Cheating Culture
Anonymous wrote:If your not cheating, your not trying.



You’re. Dolt.