Anonymous
10/31/2024 21:36
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:It seems to favor full-pay students who are more likely to discover their #1 pick—can afford multiple visits (hotels, airfare, etc). Equity issue that could ultimately go the way of legacy admissions?
ED mainly impacts donut hole middle class families, the rich and the poor aren’t affected, so there is no “equity” argument against it.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 21:35
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The most selective colleges will never willingly give up ED. It’s far too advantageous for them. It’s not even for the full pay students. High endowment schools will make it work for nearly every family. It’s because they can craft much of their class with students that both really want to be there and meet their institutional needs - athletes, engineers, vip, Pell grant, English majors, international etc. Every student has a box and ED allows the schools to fill these boxes as they see fit.
The most selective colleges don’t have ED.
Of course they do. What a silly comment.
https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/early-decision-early-action/schools-with-early-decision/
Depends on what you mean by "most selective". But the top 5 schools (Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Stanford, and MIT) do not have early decision.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 21:18
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The most selective colleges will never willingly give up ED. It’s far too advantageous for them. It’s not even for the full pay students. High endowment schools will make it work for nearly every family. It’s because they can craft much of their class with students that both really want to be there and meet their institutional needs - athletes, engineers, vip, Pell grant, English majors, international etc. Every student has a box and ED allows the schools to fill these boxes as they see fit.
The most selective colleges don’t have ED.
Of course they do. What a silly comment.
https://www.ivycoach.com/the-ivy-coach-blog/early-decision-early-action/schools-with-early-decision/
Anonymous
10/31/2024 21:16
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:It’s a good way to have a class that mostly really wants to be there.
Precisely. My DC would have LOVED to apply ED to his first-choice school, but it wasn't offered. There needs to be a way for students to express that they would absolutely attend if accepted.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 21:12
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:The most selective colleges will never willingly give up ED. It’s far too advantageous for them. It’s not even for the full pay students. High endowment schools will make it work for nearly every family. It’s because they can craft much of their class with students that both really want to be there and meet their institutional needs - athletes, engineers, vip, Pell grant, English majors, international etc. Every student has a box and ED allows the schools to fill these boxes as they see fit.
The most selective colleges don’t have ED.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 21:06
Subject: Re:Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish they’d give it up and also stop worrying about yield. It feels like the college admissions process is this big strategy game now. It does not benefit the students.
But they can't because they've all
been reporting such data to
USNewsWortld Report and other ranking services since 1983
Does US News still look at yield? I thought they stopped considering yield and acceptance rates.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:58
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:Legacy admissions has shown to have less financial benefit to the school than is commonly thought. ED is way more beneficial for colleges, financially and for yield.
It's the yield. They could always do need aware RD only.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:57
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably...
A lot of these schools are about to be completely ruined. There is a reason why they were elite... It was the exclusivity, the excellence... remove that and what do they have?
Apart from Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc (Schools that honestly can't lose their prestige) the others have a lot to lose with all these changes.
Harvard, Yale, and Princeton do not offer Early Decision.
You're an idiot. They have SCEA and REA whovh the non-elite schools don't dare try
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:57
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably...
A lot of these schools are about to be completely ruined. There is a reason why they were elite... It was the exclusivity, the excellence... remove that and what do they have?
Apart from Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc (Schools that honestly can't lose their prestige) the others have a lot to lose with all these changes.
Harvard, Yale, and Princeton do not offer Early Decision.
SCEA is basically the same thing as ED for a kid that needs aid.
ED isn't really ED if you are relying on financial aid. You can just say the financial aid package is insufficient and keep applying somewhere else.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:55
Subject: Re:Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:I wish they’d give it up and also stop worrying about yield. It feels like the college admissions process is this big strategy game now. It does not benefit the students.
But they can't because they've all
been reporting such data to
USNewsWortld Report and other ranking services since 1983
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:36
Subject: Re:Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
I wish they’d give it up and also stop worrying about yield. It feels like the college admissions process is this big strategy game now. It does not benefit the students.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:33
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
The most selective colleges will never willingly give up ED. It’s far too advantageous for them. It’s not even for the full pay students. High endowment schools will make it work for nearly every family. It’s because they can craft much of their class with students that both really want to be there and meet their institutional needs - athletes, engineers, vip, Pell grant, English majors, international etc. Every student has a box and ED allows the schools to fill these boxes as they see fit.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:33
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:It seems to favor full-pay students who are more likely to discover their #1 pick—can afford multiple visits (hotels, airfare, etc). Equity issue that could ultimately go the way of legacy admissions?
If they filled all their spots with ED, I'd agree that there is an equity issue here. But most schools fill less than 50%. As others have said, they want to lock in the full pay kids, so they can manage the yield and financial aid later.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:17
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Probably...
A lot of these schools are about to be completely ruined. There is a reason why they were elite... It was the exclusivity, the excellence... remove that and what do they have?
Apart from Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc (Schools that honestly can't lose their prestige) the others have a lot to lose with all these changes.
Harvard, Yale, and Princeton do not offer Early Decision.
This was a general comment about these schools losing exclusivity.
Anonymous
10/31/2024 20:14
Subject: Is binding ED the next shoe to drop?
Anonymous wrote:Probably...
A lot of these schools are about to be completely ruined. There is a reason why they were elite... It was the exclusivity, the excellence... remove that and what do they have?
Apart from Harvard, Yale, Princeton etc (Schools that honestly can't lose their prestige) the others have a lot to lose with all these changes.
Harvard, Yale, and Princeton do not offer Early Decision.