I admired how she made the best of her time in prison.

Anonymous wrote:Half way through and I'm loving the new Martha documentary. Most surprising so far: her childhood thru stock broker years.

Her dad was physically (belts + stick whippings) and verbally abusive, and her mother was not motherly at all. With six kids at home, the dad loses his sales job and the family had to grown their own food and barter with neighbors for other basic needs.

Martha somehow earned a scholarship to Barnard and also sent most of her modeling paychecks home to help support her younger siblings. Someone above mentioned that Martha had the "privilege" to pursue her passions. I would argue that she forged her own path that enabled her to do that. She was already a very successful woman when she was introduced to her first husband by a fellow Barnard classmate (the guy's sister). He was in law school at the time but didn't even go into law.

Until now, my opinion of Martha Stewart has oscillated between IDGAF to pure dislike. Now, I kinda dig the woman. No wonder Snoop is a big fan.

+1. With her family background, it made sense too that she got married at 19 because had to get out and be on her own. Her husband obviously helped her but she was a thousand times more successful he was. I wonder if he resented that. She is truly a singular figure. She was a billionaire. One of the few women who are/were on tyeir own merits. Oprah is another.

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Anonymous wrote:If you find her interesting at all, it's worth watching. She is an interesting success/fall/redemption story.

What is the story of her husband post-divorce? Did he stay with the woman he had an affair with? What does he do? He's been silent on her as far as I know.

Never mind. Here's the story. He divorced the assistant and has remarried and has five children with her.

https://people.com/who-is-andrew-stewart-martha-stewart-ex-husband-7498287

No, people did an awful job of reporting this. I just found his current wife’s statement about the documentary on Facebook. She met him 12 years ago - together they have 5 adult children. I don’t think they had any children together. She had kids and he had kids.

Ah, okay, that makes more sense.

Anonymous wrote:Half way through and I'm loving the new Martha documentary. Most surprising so far: her childhood thru stock broker years.

Her dad was physically (belts + stick whippings) and verbally abusive, and her mother was not motherly at all. With six kids at home, the dad loses his sales job and the family had to grown their own food and barter with neighbors for other basic needs.

Martha somehow earned a scholarship to Barnard and also sent most of her modeling paychecks home to help support her younger siblings. Someone above mentioned that Martha had the "privilege" to pursue her passions. I would argue that she forged her own path that enabled her to do that. She was already a very successful woman when she was introduced to her first husband by a fellow Barnard classmate (the guy's sister). He was in law school at the time but didn't even go into law.

Until now, my opinion of Martha Stewart has oscillated between IDGAF to pure dislike. Now, I kinda dig the woman. No wonder Snoop is a big fan.

Her life was profiled in a well rated book called "Just Desserts". Just a note that she has only now at 80 something acknowledged the more sad and painful parts of her upbringing. She always presented her father with rose colored glasses, And it is noted that even in childhood and her teens she was an embellisher and her daughter and others have said she "believes these things happened" in regard to certain memories of childhood but that whether they actually did was not always corroborated with people there. Obviously, this was part of social climbing then. She was a housecleaner and helper to two wealthy women in college to earn money. We heard nothing about that but a whole lot about her modeling. It's all very selective. See the ny times especially today...she hates certain aspects of the doc.

Half way through and I'm loving the new Martha documentary. Most surprising so far: her childhood thru stock broker years.

Her dad was physically (belts + stick whippings) and verbally abusive, and her mother was not motherly at all. With six kids at home, the dad loses his sales job and the family had to grown their own food and barter with neighbors for other basic needs.

Martha somehow earned a scholarship to Barnard and also sent most of her modeling paychecks home to help support her younger siblings. Someone above mentioned that Martha had the "privilege" to pursue her passions. I would argue that she forged her own path that enabled her to do that. She was already a very successful woman when she was introduced to her first husband by a fellow Barnard classmate (the guy's sister). He was in law school at the time but didn't even go into law.

Until now, my opinion of Martha Stewart has oscillated between IDGAF to pure dislike. Now, I kinda dig the woman. No wonder Snoop is a big fan.

Anonymous wrote:One last grasp at relevance, attention, and money.

Ignore it.

+1

A *long* time ago, before her insider trading and jail time, I read in a magazine that Martha had dated one of her daughter’s ex boyfriends. I cannot find anything referencing it online so I don’t know if it has somehow been scrubbed. But the whole thing convinced me that she is a terrible person.

She always promoted herself as a "teacher" but as someone who has had many teachers, I always found her to be too rigid and sort of boring. The best teachers help you find your own way...she was didactic and basically just talks at the reader or viewer. Like a task master...like her father.

I just posted above and will add, it’s also really interesting to reconsider Martha in light of the tradwife movement. Martha legitimized making a beautiful home and life as a worthwhile pursuit, and made some incredibly savvy business decisions. She also had a ton of privilege to be able to just focus on cooking, decor and gardening. A lot of influencers today are using the same mold….but are not the geniuses Martha was and is.

Anonymous wrote:She's a very interesting woman: blunt, funny, smart accomplished, talented, doesn't seem kind or empathetic. Does the special address the jail thing? It never made sense to me she'd be convicted.

Yes, it gets a lot of focus and she does not hold back when talking about how she felt about the prosecution. They also read from her jail diaries critiquing the food and it made me chuckle.

Honestly, I could listen to Martha talk for hours, so I really enjoyed the Netflix doc. You really get a great look at her psyche. She’s a self made billionaire and it is fascinating to see how she got there, and what personality traits both helped and hurt her along the way. Her need for control is the driving force, good and bad, through her career and relationships. I think she’s really interesting and I was hanging on to every word!

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Anonymous wrote:If you find her interesting at all, it's worth watching. She is an interesting success/fall/redemption story.

What is the story of her husband post-divorce? Did he stay with the woman he had an affair with? What does he do? He's been silent on her as far as I know.

Never mind. Here's the story. He divorced the assistant and has remarried and has five children with her.

https://people.com/who-is-andrew-stewart-martha-stewart-ex-husband-7498287

No, people did an awful job of reporting this. I just found his current wife’s statement about the documentary on Facebook. She met him 12 years ago - together they have 5 adult children. I don’t think they had any children together. She had kids and he had kids.

Anonymous wrote:If you find her interesting at all, it's worth watching. She is an interesting success/fall/redemption story.

What is the story of her husband post-divorce? Did he stay with the woman he had an affair with? What does he do? He's been silent on her as far as I know.

Never mind. Here's the story. He divorced the assistant and has remarried and has five children with her.

https://people.com/who-is-andrew-stewart-martha-stewart-ex-husband-7498287

If you find her interesting at all, it's worth watching. She is an interesting success/fall/redemption story.

What is the story of her husband post-divorce? Did he stay with the woman he had an affair with? What does he do? He's been silent on her as far as I know.

Anonymous wrote:She's a very interesting woman: blunt, funny, smart accomplished, talented, doesn't seem kind or empathetic. Does the special address the jail thing? It never made sense to me she'd be convicted.

It addresses the prosecution, trial and jail time, not the details. (She simply says she spoke to Baconovic, her broker and they had an agreement to sell when the stock went below $60.00 so she sold. Then she says her legal team said to say "I cannot recall" if she has doubts about anything.

What she left out: There was no evidence anywhere about an agreement to sell under $60.00 per share. That would have been in writing. Initially Baconovic was unreachable so she spoke with an intern ( who she grew very frustrated with.) He testified under oath that he was told to say there was an agreement to sell and that he was told to tell her Waskel ( drug developer and former boyfriend years earlier of daughter Alexis). was selling. ( he put millions in his own daughter's account before the FDA news broke and then sold them He was blocked from selling his own when he atrempted). So no she had not spoke to Waskel herself but she was informed. Another nail in coffin was her longterm best friend Pasternak testifying that martha said something on vacation soon after like "Isn't in nice to have brokers tell you these things? ". So that combined with other evidence of not being completely open with Feds nailed it.

Have followed martha for decades. She's a nasty bully and can be mean spirited but she has her strengths as well. She has little emotional intelligence and empathy though perhaps more than before. She says as much.

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Anonymous wrote:What's that?

83 year old martha Stewart talking about her s3x life.

Why, at a certain age, can people not discuss sex? You don’t get to decide when parts of who they are become off limits.

PP is so uptight she can't even type the word SEX

Personally don't think hearing people talk about sex is interesting at ALL. The New York housewives are doing it constantly this season because they have nothing else to say. Sex is a boring subject topic and the ones who speak most about it often have the least fun sex.