Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is there no protected bike lane down Wisconsin connecting Friendship Heights (or even into Bethesda) with downtown DC? Or most of the major avenues in NWDC?
Moved to NWDC from Cambridge/Boston about a year ago and have been familiarizing myself with the bicycle infrastructure here. I'm surprised there is no protected bike lane down Wisconsin into Georgetown. It's a popular commuting route, connects several Red Line stops, and has lots of businesses/schools/daycare along the way. Wisconsin is very wide, sometimes 6 lanes, and along many stretches there is already one lane that's basically blocked due to on street parking. Was there ever discussion for a protected bike lane, if so, why hasn't it happened? The traffic is heavy and can be fast so I don't feel safe biking on Wisconsin, so instead I've been using the sidewalks which can get clogged with scooters, other cyclists, and pedestrians.
I know you can detour on the New Mexico bike lane into downtown but that's pretty circuitous. I'm also comparing it with Mass Ave for those of you who are familiar with Boston/Cambridge - where there is great biking infrastructure that allows commuters and recreational cyclists to easily navigate all the T-Stops along the Red Line and access the business on and around Mass Ave. People say DC is cycling friendly and for how progressive it is I've been surprised at the lack of better biking infrastructure. And I'm not a crazy serious cyclist, I just would like to bike in a safe way for my daily needs like dropping kids off at preschool, groceries, errands etc.
For those of you who do live in NWDC and choose to bike into downtown (Georgetown or Capitol Hill or NOVA even) for work, what's your preferred route?
Historically bikers took the capital crescent trail
For some reason now this protected path is not good enough
Plus a "protected" lane right next to cars driving 40+ miles an hour is fiction. You are lucky if you don't get hit by a big SUV.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The simple truth is that Wisconsin is an important and heavily utilized road and there's not enough demonstrated demand.
If you want to get more complicated then it's because the Ward 3 council member, Frumin, and lots of other powerful people live off of Wisconsin, it's already a traffic cluster, the space has been taken up by streeteries, and an absolute maelstrom of discontent was sparked by the attempt to sneak bike lanes through on Connecticut during the pandemic.
OMG here we go again with this BS.
The bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue were not snuck thru during the pandemic.
There were something like 200 public meetings and specifically because of the pandemic they were very well attended.
The ANC 3C meeting when the proposal was voted on had something like 200 attendees (most of whom supported bike lanes) which is about 4 times the number of people that usually attend a 3C meeting.
There was not a maelstrom of discontent - a bunch of entitled drivers who don't like to share (many of whom live in MD) scared the Mayor so we are stuck with a highway running down Connecticut Avenue instead of a street that serves the people who live on it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The simple truth is that Wisconsin is an important and heavily utilized road and there's not enough demonstrated demand.
If you want to get more complicated then it's because the Ward 3 council member, Frumin, and lots of other powerful people live off of Wisconsin, it's already a traffic cluster, the space has been taken up by streeteries, and an absolute maelstrom of discontent was sparked by the attempt to sneak bike lanes through on Connecticut during the pandemic.
OMG here we go again with this BS.
The bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue were not snuck thru during the pandemic.
There were something like 200 public meetings and specifically because of the pandemic they were very well attended.
The ANC 3C meeting when the proposal was voted on had something like 200 attendees (most of whom supported bike lanes) which is about 4 times the number of people that usually attend a 3C meeting.
There was not a maelstrom of discontent - a bunch of entitled drivers who don't like to share (many of whom live in MD) scared the Mayor so we are stuck with a highway running down Connecticut Avenue instead of a street that serves the people who live on it.
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Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is there no protected bike lane down Wisconsin connecting Friendship Heights (or even into Bethesda) with downtown DC? Or most of the major avenues in NWDC?
Moved to NWDC from Cambridge/Boston about a year ago and have been familiarizing myself with the bicycle infrastructure here. I'm surprised there is no protected bike lane down Wisconsin into Georgetown. It's a popular commuting route, connects several Red Line stops, and has lots of businesses/schools/daycare along the way. Wisconsin is very wide, sometimes 6 lanes, and along many stretches there is already one lane that's basically blocked due to on street parking. Was there ever discussion for a protected bike lane, if so, why hasn't it happened? The traffic is heavy and can be fast so I don't feel safe biking on Wisconsin, so instead I've been using the sidewalks which can get clogged with scooters, other cyclists, and pedestrians.
I know you can detour on the New Mexico bike lane into downtown but that's pretty circuitous. I'm also comparing it with Mass Ave for those of you who are familiar with Boston/Cambridge - where there is great biking infrastructure that allows commuters and recreational cyclists to easily navigate all the T-Stops along the Red Line and access the business on and around Mass Ave. People say DC is cycling friendly and for how progressive it is I've been surprised at the lack of better biking infrastructure. And I'm not a crazy serious cyclist, I just would like to bike in a safe way for my daily needs like dropping kids off at preschool, groceries, errands etc.
For those of you who do live in NWDC and choose to bike into downtown (Georgetown or Capitol Hill or NOVA even) for work, what's your preferred route?
There's a group of dedicate folks who really, really hate bikes in Ward 3 and just south of it in Dupont. And a bunch of commerical real estate people live out in like Spring Valley or Chevy Chase MD too.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The simple truth is that Wisconsin is an important and heavily utilized road and there's not enough demonstrated demand.
If you want to get more complicated then it's because the Ward 3 council member, Frumin, and lots of other powerful people live off of Wisconsin, it's already a traffic cluster, the space has been taken up by streeteries, and an absolute maelstrom of discontent was sparked by the attempt to sneak bike lanes through on Connecticut during the pandemic.
OMG here we go again with this BS.
The bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue were not snuck thru during the pandemic.
There were something like 200 public meetings and specifically because of the pandemic they were very well attended.
The ANC 3C meeting when the proposal was voted on had something like 200 attendees (most of whom supported bike lanes) which is about 4 times the number of people that usually attend a 3C meeting.
There was not a maelstrom of discontent - a bunch of entitled drivers who don't like to share (many of whom live in MD) scared the Mayor so we are stuck with a highway running down Connecticut Avenue instead of a street that serves the people who live on it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is there no protected bike lane down Wisconsin connecting Friendship Heights (or even into Bethesda) with downtown DC? Or most of the major avenues in NWDC?
Moved to NWDC from Cambridge/Boston about a year ago and have been familiarizing myself with the bicycle infrastructure here. I'm surprised there is no protected bike lane down Wisconsin into Georgetown. It's a popular commuting route, connects several Red Line stops, and has lots of businesses/schools/daycare along the way. Wisconsin is very wide, sometimes 6 lanes, and along many stretches there is already one lane that's basically blocked due to on street parking. Was there ever discussion for a protected bike lane, if so, why hasn't it happened? The traffic is heavy and can be fast so I don't feel safe biking on Wisconsin, so instead I've been using the sidewalks which can get clogged with scooters, other cyclists, and pedestrians.
I know you can detour on the New Mexico bike lane into downtown but that's pretty circuitous. I'm also comparing it with Mass Ave for those of you who are familiar with Boston/Cambridge - where there is great biking infrastructure that allows commuters and recreational cyclists to easily navigate all the T-Stops along the Red Line and access the business on and around Mass Ave. People say DC is cycling friendly and for how progressive it is I've been surprised at the lack of better biking infrastructure. And I'm not a crazy serious cyclist, I just would like to bike in a safe way for my daily needs like dropping kids off at preschool, groceries, errands etc.
For those of you who do live in NWDC and choose to bike into downtown (Georgetown or Capitol Hill or NOVA even) for work, what's your preferred route?
Jack Evans, who was Ward 2 council member until 2020, was notoriously addicted to his car (and left it wherever he so pleased) and it wouldn't have been out of character for him to crush a few bike lane proposals behind the scenes. Mary Cheh, Ward 2 council member until 2022, wasn't a great proponent either.
Anonymous wrote:The simple truth is that Wisconsin is an important and heavily utilized road and there's not enough demonstrated demand.
If you want to get more complicated then it's because the Ward 3 council member, Frumin, and lots of other powerful people live off of Wisconsin, it's already a traffic cluster, the space has been taken up by streeteries, and an absolute maelstrom of discontent was sparked by the attempt to sneak bike lanes through on Connecticut during the pandemic.
Anonymous wrote:Why is there no protected bike lane down Wisconsin connecting Friendship Heights (or even into Bethesda) with downtown DC? Or most of the major avenues in NWDC?
Moved to NWDC from Cambridge/Boston about a year ago and have been familiarizing myself with the bicycle infrastructure here. I'm surprised there is no protected bike lane down Wisconsin into Georgetown. It's a popular commuting route, connects several Red Line stops, and has lots of businesses/schools/daycare along the way. Wisconsin is very wide, sometimes 6 lanes, and along many stretches there is already one lane that's basically blocked due to on street parking. Was there ever discussion for a protected bike lane, if so, why hasn't it happened? The traffic is heavy and can be fast so I don't feel safe biking on Wisconsin, so instead I've been using the sidewalks which can get clogged with scooters, other cyclists, and pedestrians.
I know you can detour on the New Mexico bike lane into downtown but that's pretty circuitous. I'm also comparing it with Mass Ave for those of you who are familiar with Boston/Cambridge - where there is great biking infrastructure that allows commuters and recreational cyclists to easily navigate all the T-Stops along the Red Line and access the business on and around Mass Ave. People say DC is cycling friendly and for how progressive it is I've been surprised at the lack of better biking infrastructure. And I'm not a crazy serious cyclist, I just would like to bike in a safe way for my daily needs like dropping kids off at preschool, groceries, errands etc.
For those of you who do live in NWDC and choose to bike into downtown (Georgetown or Capitol Hill or NOVA even) for work, what's your preferred route?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why is there no protected bike lane down Wisconsin connecting Friendship Heights (or even into Bethesda) with downtown DC? Or most of the major avenues in NWDC?
Moved to NWDC from Cambridge/Boston about a year ago and have been familiarizing myself with the bicycle infrastructure here. I'm surprised there is no protected bike lane down Wisconsin into Georgetown. It's a popular commuting route, connects several Red Line stops, and has lots of businesses/schools/daycare along the way. Wisconsin is very wide, sometimes 6 lanes, and along many stretches there is already one lane that's basically blocked due to on street parking. Was there ever discussion for a protected bike lane, if so, why hasn't it happened? The traffic is heavy and can be fast so I don't feel safe biking on Wisconsin, so instead I've been using the sidewalks which can get clogged with scooters, other cyclists, and pedestrians.
I know you can detour on the New Mexico bike lane into downtown but that's pretty circuitous. I'm also comparing it with Mass Ave for those of you who are familiar with Boston/Cambridge - where there is great biking infrastructure that allows commuters and recreational cyclists to easily navigate all the T-Stops along the Red Line and access the business on and around Mass Ave. People say DC is cycling friendly and for how progressive it is I've been surprised at the lack of better biking infrastructure. And I'm not a crazy serious cyclist, I just would like to bike in a safe way for my daily needs like dropping kids off at preschool, groceries, errands etc.
For those of you who do live in NWDC and choose to bike into downtown (Georgetown or Capitol Hill or NOVA even) for work, what's your preferred route?
Historically bikers took the capital crescent trail
For some reason now this protected path is not good enough
Anonymous wrote:Can't stand the damn bikers