Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:28     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

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Anonymous wrote:The more I look at how high schools handle their programs, the more I feel like I’m seeing recreational soccer for teens.


What are you looking at?

I saw last night a game between Whitman and Churchill where every single player out there was playing high club soccer. MLS Next, ECNL, E64, EDP regular.

They all moved the ball around, they all had technical skills.

The entire rosters in both teams were almost all seniors and juniors.



The JVs are stacked too. If you see a varsity team with only one or no freshmen and maybe one or two sophomores - and all of those are MLS Next or ECNL (not ECNL-RL!), then you know you are facing a great team.

If varsity has like 5+ underclassman playing regular travel (Bethesda C or Potomac B or lower), they are just trying to build for next year or the year after that (or just don’t know what they are doing)

No team is winning a state championship with underclassmen. You need size, strength, and speed of seniors to win. Seen too many freshmen and sophomores getting career ending injuries playing on varsity. It’s just rough sometimes and they don’t have the size or stength.

It's way more than size.

You are clueless


Nope. Too many torn ACLs and concussions and broken bones among underclassman. They are not ready, like it or not. Strength matters in varsity. Very rough. (Unless you are watching different games then me.)

Its not about being able to "take it" this isnt rugby.

High level soccer requires skills that HS players don't have. Because they don't have the skills games turn into thunderdomes where players without skill try to injure the other teams.

And this is why club coaches don't want their players playing HS soccer.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:27     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:This is nonsense. 150 boys try out for our large public's two soccer teams.


we had 75 freshman boys try out for our 1 team
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:26     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The more I look at how high schools handle their programs, the more I feel like I’m seeing recreational soccer for teens.


What are you looking at?

I saw last night a game between Whitman and Churchill where every single player out there was playing high club soccer. MLS Next, ECNL, E64, EDP regular.

They all moved the ball around, they all had technical skills.

The entire rosters in both teams were almost all seniors and juniors.



The JVs are stacked too. If you see a varsity team with only one or no freshmen and maybe one or two sophomores - and all of those are MLS Next or ECNL (not ECNL-RL!), then you know you are facing a great team.

If varsity has like 5+ underclassman playing regular travel (Bethesda C or Potomac B or lower), they are just trying to build for next year or the year after that (or just don’t know what they are doing)

No team is winning a state championship with underclassmen. You need size, strength, and speed of seniors to win. Seen too many freshmen and sophomores getting career ending injuries playing on varsity. It’s just rough sometimes and they don’t have the size or stength.

It's way more than size.

You are clueless


Nope. Too many torn ACLs and concussions and broken bones among underclassman. They are not ready, like it or not. Strength matters in varsity. Very rough. (Unless you are watching different games then me.)

Its not about being able to "take it" this isnt rugby.

High level soccer requires skills that HS players don't have. Because they don't have the skills games turn into thunderdomes where players without skill try to injure the other teams.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:25     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:The more I look at how high schools handle their programs, the more I feel like I’m seeing recreational soccer for teens.


yes, you are just better than them, but you didnt need me to tell you that, you already knew
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:24     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:The more I look at how high schools handle their programs, the more I feel like I’m seeing recreational soccer for teens.


What are you looking at?

I saw last night a game between Whitman and Churchill where every single player out there was playing high club soccer. MLS Next, ECNL, E64, EDP regular.

They all moved the ball around, they all had technical skills.

The entire rosters in both teams were almost all seniors and juniors.



The JVs are stacked too. If you see a varsity team with only one or no freshmen and maybe one or two sophomores - and all of those are MLS Next or ECNL (not ECNL-RL!), then you know you are facing a great team.

If varsity has like 5+ underclassman playing regular travel (Bethesda C or Potomac B or lower), they are just trying to build for next year or the year after that (or just don’t know what they are doing)

No team is winning a state championship with underclassmen. You need size, strength, and speed of seniors to win. Seen too many freshmen and sophomores getting career ending injuries playing on varsity. It’s just rough sometimes and they don’t have the size or stength.

It's way more than size.

You are clueless


Nope. Too many torn ACLs and concussions and broken bones among underclassman. They are not ready, like it or not. Strength matters in varsity. Very rough. (Unless you are watching different games then me.)


We had a sophomore that tore his ACL his first game. Felt really bad for him. High school soccer is painful to watch, coming from MLS Next.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:20     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The more I look at how high schools handle their programs, the more I feel like I’m seeing recreational soccer for teens.


What are you looking at?

I saw last night a game between Whitman and Churchill where every single player out there was playing high club soccer. MLS Next, ECNL, E64, EDP regular.

They all moved the ball around, they all had technical skills.

The entire rosters in both teams were almost all seniors and juniors.



The JVs are stacked too. If you see a varsity team with only one or no freshmen and maybe one or two sophomores - and all of those are MLS Next or ECNL (not ECNL-RL!), then you know you are facing a great team.

If varsity has like 5+ underclassman playing regular travel (Bethesda C or Potomac B or lower), they are just trying to build for next year or the year after that (or just don’t know what they are doing)

No team is winning a state championship with underclassmen. You need size, strength, and speed of seniors to win. Seen too many freshmen and sophomores getting career ending injuries playing on varsity. It’s just rough sometimes and they don’t have the size or stength.

It's way more than size.

You are clueless


Nope. Too many torn ACLs and concussions and broken bones among underclassman. They are not ready, like it or not. Strength matters in varsity. Very rough. (Unless you are watching different games then me.)


Yep very rough. There is a great disparity in talent and less talented players are very tough to make up for it.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:17     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The more I look at how high schools handle their programs, the more I feel like I’m seeing recreational soccer for teens.


What are you looking at?

I saw last night a game between Whitman and Churchill where every single player out there was playing high club soccer. MLS Next, ECNL, E64, EDP regular.

They all moved the ball around, they all had technical skills.

The entire rosters in both teams were almost all seniors and juniors.



The JVs are stacked too. If you see a varsity team with only one or no freshmen and maybe one or two sophomores - and all of those are MLS Next or ECNL (not ECNL-RL!), then you know you are facing a great team.

If varsity has like 5+ underclassman playing regular travel (Bethesda C or Potomac B or lower), they are just trying to build for next year or the year after that (or just don’t know what they are doing)

No team is winning a state championship with underclassmen. You need size, strength, and speed of seniors to win. Seen too many freshmen and sophomores getting career ending injuries playing on varsity. It’s just rough sometimes and they don’t have the size or stength.

It's way more than size.

You are clueless


Nope. Too many torn ACLs and concussions and broken bones among underclassman. They are not ready, like it or not. Strength matters in varsity. Very rough. (Unless you are watching different games then me.)
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:12     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The more I look at how high schools handle their programs, the more I feel like I’m seeing recreational soccer for teens.


What are you looking at?

I saw last night a game between Whitman and Churchill where every single player out there was playing high club soccer. MLS Next, ECNL, E64, EDP regular.

They all moved the ball around, they all had technical skills.

The entire rosters in both teams were almost all seniors and juniors.



The JVs are stacked too. If you see a varsity team with only one or no freshmen and maybe one or two sophomores - and all of those are MLS Next or ECNL (not ECNL-RL!), then you know you are facing a great team.

If varsity has like 5+ underclassman playing regular travel (Bethesda C or Potomac B or lower), they are just trying to build for next year or the year after that (or just don’t know what they are doing)

No team is winning a state championship with underclassmen. You need size, strength, and speed of seniors to win. Seen too many freshmen and sophomores getting career ending injuries playing on varsity. It’s just rough sometimes and they don’t have the size or stength.

It's way more than size.

You are clueless
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 12:03     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The more I look at how high schools handle their programs, the more I feel like I’m seeing recreational soccer for teens.


What are you looking at?

I saw last night a game between Whitman and Churchill where every single player out there was playing high club soccer. MLS Next, ECNL, E64, EDP regular.

They all moved the ball around, they all had technical skills.

The entire rosters in both teams were almost all seniors and juniors.



The JVs are stacked too. If you see a varsity team with only one or no freshmen and maybe one or two sophomores - and all of those are MLS Next or ECNL (not ECNL-RL!), then you know you are facing a great team.

If varsity has like 5+ underclassman playing regular travel (Bethesda C or Potomac B or lower), they are just trying to build for next year or the year after that (or just don’t know what they are doing)

No team is winning a state championship with underclassmen. You need size, strength, and speed of seniors to win. Seen too many freshmen and sophomores getting career ending injuries playing on varsity. It’s just rough sometimes and they don’t have the size or stength.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 11:57     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

High school soccer is a joke in this area. My kids play travel. One's in middle school and the other's in high school. We've seen high school soccer players and they're overweight, out of shape, and not very skilled. Now, check out the rosters for the top travel clubs for ages 14+. All the kids are in shape, fit, and have solid footwork skills.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 11:56     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

They do go to state championship games though. And college coaches ask for a reference from the high school coach.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 11:49     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Most high level club players like playing on a HS soccer team because it's fun. But the play is rec level even at private schools who actually take it seriously. A club team if they were being serious would destroy a high school team simply by using tactics. Which would embarrass the high school team and they'd retaliate trying to hurt/injure the club team.

NOBODY takes high school soccer that seriously.

College recruiters dont show up high school soccer games looking for talent.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 11:48     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:But what about Glenelg?


Genuine question...is anyone actually scouted through high school soccer? Are there even talented players only doing high school soccer and not club as well?


Teh most talented kids do not play HS - they dont want to get hurt by some field hockey kid from another team trying outside back for the first time.


This is absolutely not true. I would bet 90+% of ECNL boys play and 75% of MLS Next kids. Some DC United players risk repercussions and play against their coaches instructions. They all LOVE playing HS.


kids play HS soccer because they get to play with their friends that they grew up with. everyone knows it's not high level but there is the social/high school aspect of representing your school that kids love.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 11:45     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

This is nonsense. 150 boys try out for our large public's two soccer teams.
Anonymous
Post 10/30/2024 11:41     Subject: High School Soccer is the new teen recreational soccer.

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But what about Glenelg?


Genuine question...is anyone actually scouted through high school soccer? Are there even talented players only doing high school soccer and not club as well?


Teh most talented kids do not play HS - they dont want to get hurt by some field hockey kid from another team trying outside back for the first time.


This is absolutely not true. I would bet 90+% of ECNL boys play and 75% of MLS Next kids. Some DC United players risk repercussions and play against their coaches instructions. They all LOVE playing HS.


You don’t need to bet. You are correct and many of the people making comments are absolutely clueless