Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:39     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Yes my DS went to Cornell as a transfer to Arts and Sciences after being rejected (he was waitlisted) from Cornell out of high school to a NY school at Cornell. Was explicitly told would have gotten admission had he been in state.


Explicitly told by whom?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:39     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at this NY in-state school's four year matriculation.
Cannot be more real.

Cornell (315 Admitted, 205 Enrolled)
CalTech (6 Admitted, 2 Enrolled)
Berkeley (23 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Brown (37 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
CMU (73 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Northwestern (42 Admitted, 22 Enrolled)
University of Chicago (55 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
UCLA (20 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Columbia (64 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
Dartmouth (14 Admitted, 7 Enrolled)
Duke (25 Admitted, 11 Enrolled)
Georgetown (43 Admitted, 17 Enrolled)
Georgia Tech (69 Admitted, 3 Enrolled)
Harvard (29 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (23 Admitted, 5 Enrolled)
MIT (39 Admitted, 36 Enrolled)
UMich (342 Admitted, 141 Enrolled)
University of Pennsylvania (57 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Princeton (45 Admitted, 25 Enrolled)
Stanford (9 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Yale (39 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)


All other ivies combined accepted 160 kids in 4 years from said school, Cornell alone accepted 315.

About 16 times higher chance of acceptance compared to other ivies.

There is no "cap" for high school.


Yes, because half of Cornell’s colleges are NY state schools. I don’t know why this is a surprise to some people.

My NY suburban high school sent around 20 kids to Cornell every year. Usually one to Harvard and one to Yale, and every few years someone got into Princeton or Brown.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:39     Subject: Re:Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.


A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!

For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?


Duh. But the experience is different at a small Ivy or SLAC focused on undergrads. You missed the point.


In the long, cold winter, I'd rather have more students on campus.

Cornell is Penn and Dartmouth combined, is it that awful? No really.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:36     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What school is this? Must be one of the highest performing and best at placement in the country. Our very large, well regarded suburban DC public school has had maybe 1-2 acceptances to Harvard and 0 to MIT in the past four years. If it's one NYC's versions of TJ, and those kids are mostly going to Cornell's (private) engineering school, it's not a very useful post, but whatever your school is, it has better results all around than any public HS I've seen around here


Maybe Stuy? Or Horace Mann?


The number for Brown is higher than I’d expect for Stuy. It implies a private school and parents with money.

It’s someplace in the NYC area though.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:28     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at this NY in-state school's four year matriculation.
Cannot be more real.

Cornell (315 Admitted, 205 Enrolled)
CalTech (6 Admitted, 2 Enrolled)
Berkeley (23 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Brown (37 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
CMU (73 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Northwestern (42 Admitted, 22 Enrolled)
University of Chicago (55 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
UCLA (20 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Columbia (64 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
Dartmouth (14 Admitted, 7 Enrolled)
Duke (25 Admitted, 11 Enrolled)
Georgetown (43 Admitted, 17 Enrolled)
Georgia Tech (69 Admitted, 3 Enrolled)
Harvard (29 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (23 Admitted, 5 Enrolled)
MIT (39 Admitted, 36 Enrolled)
UMich (342 Admitted, 141 Enrolled)
University of Pennsylvania (57 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Princeton (45 Admitted, 25 Enrolled)
Stanford (9 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Yale (39 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)


All other ivies combined accepted 160 kids in 4 years from said school, Cornell alone accepted 315.

About 16 times higher chance of acceptance compared to other ivies.

There is no "cap" for high school.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:24     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What school is this? Must be one of the highest performing and best at placement in the country. Our very large, well regarded suburban DC public school has had maybe 1-2 acceptances to Harvard and 0 to MIT in the past four years. If it's one NYC's versions of TJ, and those kids are mostly going to Cornell's (private) engineering school, it's not a very useful post, but whatever your school is, it has better results all around than any public HS I've seen around here


Maybe Stuy? Or Horace Mann?

or Bronx Science
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:24     Subject: Re:Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.


A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!

For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?


Duh. But the experience is different at a small Ivy or SLAC focused on undergrads. You missed the point.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:22     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.


This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?



Maybe true but Penn and Cornell are mandated to take a certain amount of students locally (Penn) and statewide (Cornell).
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:08     Subject: Re:Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.


A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!

For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?


100%
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 11:05     Subject: Re:Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:I've always felt Cornell had more a 'state university' feel than an Ivy or SLAC. It's also large--undergrad enrollment the size of UVA.


A Cornell degree is a Cornell degree. It makes no difference which college one went to. It's an ivy!

For premed, why wouldn't you go to Agriculture or Human Ecology rather than Engineering?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 10:02     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:What school is this? Must be one of the highest performing and best at placement in the country. Our very large, well regarded suburban DC public school has had maybe 1-2 acceptances to Harvard and 0 to MIT in the past four years. If it's one NYC's versions of TJ, and those kids are mostly going to Cornell's (private) engineering school, it's not a very useful post, but whatever your school is, it has better results all around than any public HS I've seen around here


Maybe Stuy? Or Horace Mann?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 10:01     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at this NY in-state school's four year matriculation.
Cannot be more real.

Cornell (315 Admitted, 205 Enrolled)
CalTech (6 Admitted, 2 Enrolled)
Berkeley (23 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Brown (37 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
CMU (73 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Northwestern (42 Admitted, 22 Enrolled)
University of Chicago (55 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
UCLA (20 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Columbia (64 Admitted, 42 Enrolled)
Dartmouth (14 Admitted, 7 Enrolled)
Duke (25 Admitted, 11 Enrolled)
Georgetown (43 Admitted, 17 Enrolled)
Georgia Tech (69 Admitted, 3 Enrolled)
Harvard (29 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)
Johns Hopkins (23 Admitted, 5 Enrolled)
MIT (39 Admitted, 36 Enrolled)
UMich (342 Admitted, 141 Enrolled)
University of Pennsylvania (57 Admitted, 37 Enrolled)
Princeton (45 Admitted, 25 Enrolled)
Stanford (9 Admitted, 6 Enrolled)
Yale (39 Admitted, 23 Enrolled)


Chicago private school here.
approx 8-10% of our graduating class is admitted to Northwestern every year. A much smaller number enrolls though.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 10:00     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.


This. And true for others (Duke - Carolinas promise; Northwestern - backyard Chicago public school promise) - why is anyone surprised?
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 09:55     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
All Ivies have a preference for in-state students.
Anonymous
Post 10/28/2024 09:45     Subject: Cornell's in-state preference is real
Anonymous wrote:You’re private schools and state public schools on your list. Why are you doing that and what is your point?


I thought the same thing. WTF?

You would expect in-state with 'in-state tuition' to have a higher enrolled rate....and residency enrollment.