Anonymous wrote:CH campus? How hard is it out of state? If your child had it on their list, what other schools did they like? did anyone visit?

Probably the hardest OOS application in the country.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.

Can you expand on that?

I’m not the PP but I TAed at UNC while doing my PhD and they told us we would be able to tell who the OOS students were by the end of the first week of classes. And they were correct. There was quite a disparity both in academic preparation and work ethic between the two groups. This was 16 years ago, however.

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Anonymous wrote:Fcps, so obviously oos:

unique application

Excellent ECs (leadership, long term, varied but many connected, work, evident impact)

TO

4.4+ gpa (2 b+)

Very high rigor

Saw one LOR and it was very good

Apply, manage expectations, then wait to see if your kid wins a UNC lottery ticket.

+1. This is the way.

Anonymous wrote:Fcps, so obviously oos:

unique application

Excellent ECs (leadership, long term, varied but many connected, work, evident impact)

TO

4.4+ gpa (2 b+)

Very high rigor

Saw one LOR and it was very good

Apply, manage expectations, then wait to see if your kid wins a UNC lottery ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.

Can you expand on that?

You have to be a much stronger candidate to get in out of state - higher grades, test scores, better ECs, etc. So, the out of state kids are generally more advanced than the in state kids…

To be fair, this was a thing when I was at a Big 10 college in the late 90's. Probably pretty common among higher-ranking state schools.

Anonymous wrote:Fcps, so obviously oos:

unique application

Excellent ECs (leadership, long term, varied but many connected, work, evident impact)

TO

4.4+ gpa (2 b+)

Very high rigor

Saw one LOR and it was very good

That is very similar to ours from VBCPS - OOS:

EC - long term + leadership w/proof of impact, very varied
UW 3.95
Highest rigor
STEM Magnet
 12 AP + some magnet beyond

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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.

Can you expand on that?

They're stating the OOS kids are smarter and that NC in-state students are dumb. Impact is don't send your smart kid there to hang with the deplorables, they will not be challenged.

I mean, statistically the OOS kids are going to be tippy top just based on the fact that the UNC system is designed to admit mostly in-state students. It’s not a judgment but a fact. I went to UNC in-state and don’t take it personally!

It's not just UNC either. The same is going to be true at Michigan, UVA, UT Austin...

I can vouch for the fact that there are some downright stupid people who get into UT Austin from in state, not auto admit.

Anonymous wrote:Our large hs usually has about 3 admittances to UVA per year and maybe 1 to UNC. UVA is more predictable if you take the rigor, and you pretty much have to have a perfect GPA. UNC - they bypass perfect GPAs all the time - I don't know the kids who get in, but wouldn't be shocked if they are legacies - I think legacies at UNC are still a preference.

No legacy preference for instate anymore. OOS it still “may” be considered.

Anonymous wrote:Very hard. Only the best within the state get in, much less from other states.

-NC native

This is what I know to be true. I used to live in Charlotte and much like UVA out of NoVa, UNC only accepts the most competitive students from that area, so the idea that the in-state kids are dummies is bs.

I got in OOS. Loved it. The 18% OOS freshman incoming cap has been in place since the 80s and they’re never going to change it; it’s mandated by state law. Chapel Hill is unapologetically a school to educate in state students. Having a higher % of OOS students is often used as a budget balancing measure (UVA has admitted to doing this); I’m not giving an opinion one way or another on that but NC has affirmatively stated they won’t take that route.

Our large hs usually has about 3 admittances to UVA per year and maybe 1 to UNC. UVA is more predictable if you take the rigor, and you pretty much have to have a perfect GPA. UNC - they bypass perfect GPAs all the time - I don't know the kids who get in, but wouldn't be shocked if they are legacies - I think legacies at UNC are still a preference.

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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.

Can you expand on that?

They're stating the OOS kids are smarter and that NC in-state students are dumb. Impact is don't send your smart kid there to hang with the deplorables, they will not be challenged.

I mean, statistically the OOS kids are going to be tippy top just based on the fact that the UNC system is designed to admit mostly in-state students. It’s not a judgment but a fact. I went to UNC in-state and don’t take it personally!

It's not just UNC either. The same is going to be true at Michigan, UVA, UT Austin...

NC resident, some true and false statements in here. NC pulls from all over state, otherwise they’d have a campus full for Wake and Mecklenburg kids dominating. Mine went to top school in state, all are qualified and not all get in. I do think OOS have high stats, but I personally know of a student that got in from Midwest a full-ride last year with much lower stats, but clearly saw something in them. Also know of a Washington state kid with much lower stats than the ones from my kid’s school. Not sure how to explain it all.

It is really hard OOS. I know kids who don’t even apply because they don’t want to be around 85% kids from NC

Better to go to Michigan or UCLA or other state flagships for more diversity

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Anonymous wrote:Girl from out public in New England got in last year. She had top grades, stats, and ECs. I know the school has a lot going for it, but the out of state kids are at a different level than I state kids which isn’t ideal IMO.

Can you expand on that?

They're stating the OOS kids are smarter and that NC in-state students are dumb. Impact is don't send your smart kid there to hang with the deplorables, they will not be challenged.

I mean, statistically the OOS kids are going to be tippy top just based on the fact that the UNC system is designed to admit mostly in-state students. It’s not a judgment but a fact. I went to UNC in-state and don’t take it personally!