Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:41
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
NP. A true safety *for a high stats student* has an acceptance rate well over 50%.
Again, you’re saying the chances for everyone should be the same, which is simply false. While safeties doesn’t mean guaranteed, but high stats kids have much better chance than their low stats counterparts.
No, I am saying that EVEN for a high stats student, the acceptance rate must be well over 50% for a true safety. Lower than that, there is too much uncertainty, not sufficient assurance of admission.
Note that many colleges in the 40 to 55 ish % range tend to yield protect. Call these low targets.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:40
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:40
Subject: Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My DS had 4.0 GPA with 1590 SAT, and was accepted to an Ivy. He turned it down to attend George Mason on a full tuition+room/board scholarship because we would have to pay almost 85K per year, and we didn't receive any financial aid at the Ivy where he was accepted. Fast-forward to today, he is currently at UVA medical school.
Why have your kid apply to an Ivy at all...you knew you were not going to receive any FA if you had used the NPC.
It's kind of a pain in the a** to apply to some of these schools, so better to avoid all that if it is never an option.
Why not though? It’s good to have options. This scenario happens more than people I think realize. I know two people at flagships, one in-state and one OOS who did this recently. I know another graduating from another far OOS. Aside from only being home for major breaks, kid has no regrets and moving back after graduation. I think is cool than some are able to pick best financial sense for them versus a brand name.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:38
Subject: Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:My DS had 4.0 GPA with 1590 SAT, and was accepted to an Ivy. He turned it down to attend George Mason on a full tuition+room/board scholarship because we would have to pay almost 85K per year, and we didn't receive any financial aid at the Ivy where he was accepted. Fast-forward to today, he is currently at UVA medical school.
Must be heart breaking to not be able to afford this.
My DC (super high stats) was rejected to all the T10, and it was sad, BUT, a part of me was so relieved. We cannot easily afford $85K/year, but we would've figured out a way to do it if they got in and really wanted to go. It would've hurt either way.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:37
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
NP. A true safety *for a high stats student* has an acceptance rate well over 50%.
Again, you’re saying the chances for everyone should be the same, which is simply false. While safeties doesn’t mean guaranteed, but high stats kids have much better chance than their low stats counterparts.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:36
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
Right?!?! It's not a Safety for CS by any stretch
Not to pile on, but it would appear that PP has the old school thinking about UMD. My guess is that other applications included the likes of MIT, CMU, Stanford etc.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:35
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
NP. A true safety *for a high stats student* has an acceptance rate well over 50%.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:33
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.
But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:32
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Elaborate please.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:31
Subject: Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:My DS had 4.0 GPA with 1590 SAT, and was accepted to an Ivy. He turned it down to attend George Mason on a full tuition+room/board scholarship because we would have to pay almost 85K per year, and we didn't receive any financial aid at the Ivy where he was accepted. Fast-forward to today, he is currently at UVA medical school.
Why have your kid apply to an Ivy at all...you knew you were not going to receive any FA if you had used the NPC.
It's kind of a pain in the a** to apply to some of these schools, so better to avoid all that if it is never an option.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:31
Subject: Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
I know one in CS and he is doing great. He's an author on a research paper and got a very good internship.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:30
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Especially from MoCo (and Blair specifically). They can’t admit the entire class from Blair magnet, so the kids are really competing against themselves for a few spots.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:30
Subject: Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:My DS had 4.0 GPA with 1590 SAT, and was accepted to an Ivy. He turned it down to attend George Mason on a full tuition+room/board scholarship because we would have to pay almost 85K per year, and we didn't receive any financial aid at the Ivy where he was accepted. Fast-forward to today, he is currently at UVA medical school.
Smart Choice!!!! Now he can graduate medical school without added debt from Undergrad (and possibly without much debt at all if you are able to help him).
Also, it is much easier to get high GPA, research, excellent recommendations at a "slightly lower ranked school" where your kid is Top Dog. THat's what med schools want to see. And in reality, where you go for undergrad does not affect medical school. It may just "seem that way" because people who can be full pay at Ivy are also the ones who can be full pay at medical school and don't have to search for the "most affordable medical school"
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:30
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+
Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.
Anonymous
10/21/2024 10:27
Subject: Re:Anyone have a high stats kid who ended up at their true safety school?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.
They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.
1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program
They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.
I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.
CS major is just tough.
I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.
What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.
Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+