Anonymous
10/16/2024 23:07
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The facts show that the number of TJ students actually enrolled at TJ has NOT decreased.
In fact, if you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are, on average, MORE Asian students at TJ today.
TJ enrollment data from FCPS:
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Again, the admission changes weren't about REDUCING the number of Asian students; they were about ADDING others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
TJHSST is a community resource that should provide opportunities to kids from all across the county, not just a handful of feeder schools.
According to FCPS, there is no TJ without relying on an overwhelming number of Asian students, at least 300+ of them. No one is arguing this aspect, and data backs it up.
The primary concern is why Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expanded quota, which makes it a race aware process. Second, more qualified non-Asian students may be left behind as there lacks a merit based selection process and lower level math students are currently enrolled and likely struggling at TJ.
Asian students are not excluded from any seat.
The admissions process is race blind.
All seats are open to students of any race.
The process was not created in a race blind manner. It was created to yield racially driven result.
That is correct. The theory is the process appears “race blind.” However, the desired racial yield is still achieved by using “proxies” for race.
In the case of admitting Black students, and LatinX students (who are not a race but are still within the targeted URM cohort), TJ’s admissions office considers proxies and examines details about a student's socio-economic background including whether they are economically disadvantaged or an English language learner.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 22:55
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The facts show that the number of TJ students actually enrolled at TJ has NOT decreased.
In fact, if you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are, on average, MORE Asian students at TJ today.
TJ enrollment data from FCPS:
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Again, the admission changes weren't about REDUCING the number of Asian students; they were about ADDING others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
TJHSST is a community resource that should provide opportunities to kids from all across the county, not just a handful of feeder schools.
It should not be based on race.
It’s not.
A portion of the seats are allocated by middle school. The rest are open. None are based on race.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 22:54
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More data:
The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ has not decreased.
If you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are on average MORE Asian students at TJ today.
It wasn't about reducing the number of Asian students; it was about adding others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
Your chart shows the Discrimination and race based manipulation. Asian students were excluded from participating in expanded seat quota, while the others count went from 506 to 833.
cite
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Where are you getting your 2017, 2018 and 2019 numbers from?
Same website. I’ve been tracking for years.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 16:28
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The facts show that the number of TJ students actually enrolled at TJ has NOT decreased.
In fact, if you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are, on average, MORE Asian students at TJ today.
TJ enrollment data from FCPS:
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Again, the admission changes weren't about REDUCING the number of Asian students; they were about ADDING others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
TJHSST is a community resource that should provide opportunities to kids from all across the county, not just a handful of feeder schools.
According to FCPS, there is no TJ without relying on an overwhelming number of Asian students, at least 300+ of them. No one is arguing this aspect, and data backs it up.
The primary concern is why Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expanded quota, which makes it a race aware process. Second, more qualified non-Asian students may be left behind as there lacks a merit based selection process and lower level math students are currently enrolled and likely struggling at TJ.
Asian students are not excluded from any seat.
The admissions process is race blind.
All seats are open to students of any race.
The process was not created in a race blind manner. It was created to yield racially driven result.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 16:27
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:The facts show that the number of TJ students actually enrolled at TJ has NOT decreased.
In fact, if you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are, on average, MORE Asian students at TJ today.
TJ enrollment data from FCPS:
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Again, the admission changes weren't about REDUCING the number of Asian students; they were about ADDING others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
TJHSST is a community resource that should provide opportunities to kids from all across the county, not just a handful of feeder schools.
It should not be based on race.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 16:26
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More data:
The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ has not decreased.
If you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are on average MORE Asian students at TJ today.
It wasn't about reducing the number of Asian students; it was about adding others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
Your chart shows the Discrimination and race based manipulation. Asian students were excluded from participating in expanded seat quota, while the others count went from 506 to 833.
cite
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Where are you getting your 2017, 2018 and 2019 numbers from?
Anonymous
10/16/2024 12:40
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The facts show that the number of TJ students actually enrolled at TJ has NOT decreased.
In fact, if you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are, on average, MORE Asian students at TJ today.
TJ enrollment data from FCPS:
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Again, the admission changes weren't about REDUCING the number of Asian students; they were about ADDING others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
TJHSST is a community resource that should provide opportunities to kids from all across the county, not just a handful of feeder schools.
According to FCPS, there is no TJ without relying on an overwhelming number of Asian students, at least 300+ of them. No one is arguing this aspect, and data backs it up.
The primary concern is why Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expanded quota, which makes it a race aware process. Second, more qualified non-Asian students may be left behind as there lacks a merit based selection process and lower level math students are currently enrolled and likely struggling at TJ.
Asian students are not excluded from any seat.
The admissions process is race blind.
All seats are open to students of any race.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 12:06
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:The facts show that the number of TJ students actually enrolled at TJ has NOT decreased.
In fact, if you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are, on average, MORE Asian students at TJ today.
TJ enrollment data from FCPS:
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Again, the admission changes weren't about REDUCING the number of Asian students; they were about ADDING others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
TJHSST is a community resource that should provide opportunities to kids from all across the county, not just a handful of feeder schools.
According to FCPS, there is no TJ without relying on an overwhelming number of Asian students, at least 300+ of them. No one is arguing this aspect, and data backs it up.
The primary concern is why Asian applicants were excluded from the 100 seat expanded quota, which makes it a race aware process. Second, more qualified non-Asian students may be left behind as there lacks a merit based selection process and lower level math students are currently enrolled and likely struggling at TJ.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 10:09
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
The facts show that the number of TJ students actually enrolled at TJ has NOT decreased.
In fact, if you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are, on average, MORE Asian students at TJ today.
TJ enrollment data from FCPS:
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Again, the admission changes weren't about REDUCING the number of Asian students; they were about ADDING others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
TJHSST is a community resource that should provide opportunities to kids from all across the county, not just a handful of feeder schools.
In fact, if you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are, on average, MORE Asian students at TJ today.
TJ enrollment data from FCPS:
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Again, the admission changes weren't about REDUCING the number of Asian students; they were about ADDING others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
TJHSST is a community resource that should provide opportunities to kids from all across the county, not just a handful of feeder schools.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 10:02
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More data:
The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ has not decreased.
If you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are on average MORE Asian students at TJ today.
It wasn't about reducing the number of Asian students; it was about adding others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
Your chart shows the Discrimination and race based manipulation. Asian students were excluded from participating in expanded seat quota, while the others count went from 506 to 833.
cite
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Anonymous
10/16/2024 09:56
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More data:
The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ has not decreased.
If you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are on average MORE Asian students at TJ today.
It wasn't about reducing the number of Asian students; it was about adding others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
NO DISCRIMINATION.
Where are you getting these numbers, they are incorrect.
From the FCPS fall enrollment data.
I rechecked - 100% accurate. I will update any errors you happen to find.
Link.
This page seems to indicate that your numbers are incorrect.
https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13::::0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:300,0
which number is wrong?
https://tinyurl.com/tjenroll
Anonymous
10/16/2024 09:37
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More data:
The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ has not decreased.
If you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are on average MORE Asian students at TJ today.
It wasn't about reducing the number of Asian students; it was about adding others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
Your chart shows the Discrimination and race based manipulation. Asian students were excluded from participating in expanded seat quota, while the others count went from 506 to 833.
cite
Anonymous
10/16/2024 09:37
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More data:
The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ has not decreased.
If you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are on average MORE Asian students at TJ today.
It wasn't about reducing the number of Asian students; it was about adding others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
NO DISCRIMINATION.
Where are you getting these numbers, they are incorrect.
From the FCPS fall enrollment data.
I rechecked - 100% accurate. I will update any errors you happen to find.
Link.
This page seems to indicate that your numbers are incorrect.
https://schoolprofiles.fcps.edu/schlprfl/f?p=108:13::::
0_CURRENT_SCHOOL_ID,P0_EDSL:300,0
Anonymous
10/16/2024 09:34
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More data:
The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ has not decreased.
If you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are on average MORE Asian students at TJ today.
It wasn't about reducing the number of Asian students; it was about adding others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
NO DISCRIMINATION.
Where are you getting these numbers, they are incorrect.
From the FCPS fall enrollment data.
I rechecked - 100% accurate. I will update any errors you happen to find.
Link.
Anonymous
10/16/2024 07:35
Subject: Re:S/o: brief factual history of TJ admissions and race (from Wikipedia)
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:More data:
The number of Asian students enrolled at TJ has not decreased.
If you look at the four years before the admissions change and the four years after, there are on average MORE Asian students at TJ today.
It wasn't about reducing the number of Asian students; it was about adding others. It wasn't zero sum - they added seats to open up access to kids from across the county. There are just as many Asian students there today as there were before.
NO DISCRIMINATION.
Where are you getting these numbers, they are incorrect.
From the FCPS fall enrollment data.
I rechecked - 100% accurate. I will update any errors you happen to find.