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Anonymous wrote:Yes, I think my kids' coaches know the rules. Umps are stubborn though, and once they make a call, they will not go back on it. Cost us a tournament game this weekend too.

My guess is the umpires were right and the coaches were wrong. In a tournament, they could have paid a protest fee if it was a rules-based challenge. The fact that they didn't do that tells me they probably aren't as confident in knowing the rules as you believe.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I think my kids' coaches know the rules. Umps are stubborn though, and once they make a call, they will not go back on it. Cost us a tournament game this weekend too.

Anonymous wrote:Yes, I think my kids' coaches know the rules. Umps are stubborn though, and once they make a call, they will not go back on it. Cost us a tournament game this weekend too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

The angriest that I've ever seen my DD's coach is when the ref wouldn't stop play after two player collided going for a header. It's the only time I ever saw him go after a ref

Why should a referee stop play in that case? Were there obvious injuries? I assume collisions are commonplace when competing for headers?

In softball, I'll only kill a play when there's a obvious medical emergency type injury -- like a pitcher takes a line drive to the face and a nose explodes in blood or something (yes, I've seen it happen -- which is why I'm a big proponent of fielders' masks). But the run-of-the-mill girl takes a hard grounder off her shin, I'll allow time when the play is over but I'm not killing a play prematurely.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

The angriest that I've ever seen my DD's coach is when the ref wouldn't stop play after two player collided going for a header. It's the only time I ever saw him go after a ref

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

The angriest that I've ever seen my DD's coach is when the ref wouldn't stop play after two player collided going for a header. It's the only time I ever saw him go after a ref

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

True, especially in sports where the calls include real judgement and not just a black/white application of the rules. Soccer and basketball in particular have a a lot of "grey" in the level of physicality that can happen in a game. Sometimes refs call the game tight, other times they call it loose. Parents usually want it whatever way is best for their team.

Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

I pulled my daughter from soccer, the reffing and coaching is a liability blanket statement. The coaches are quick to teach aggressive behavior, but never call fouls in practice. That is the real frustrating thing about coaches that don't know the rules, is they don't call them in practices so kids don't learn them by game time. It also causes the kids to learn defensive play. In basketball the coach ever called over the back or reaching in the post. My daughter just quit trying to catch the ball. Same with soccer, saw many a goalie's hands get kicked in practice. No call. That stuff should be a practice red card. Like, go home kid we don't want to play with you, ever!

You don't call it in practice because you want kids to play aggressive and most youth refs will not call over the back. The last thing a coach wants is kids busy calling fouls while the play goes on with out them

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Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

I pulled my daughter from soccer, the reffing and coaching is a liability blanket statement. The coaches are quick to teach aggressive behavior, but never call fouls in practice. That is the real frustrating thing about coaches that don't know the rules, is they don't call them in practices so kids don't learn them by game time. It also causes the kids to learn defensive play. In basketball the coach ever called over the back or reaching in the post. My daughter just quit trying to catch the ball. Same with soccer, saw many a goalie's hands get kicked in practice. No call. That stuff should be a practice red card. Like, go home kid we don't want to play with you, ever!

Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

Anonymous wrote:I sense many coaches don’t understand the rules, especially when it is nuanced. For example, in soccer there are very specific rules on how refs should deal with injured players. Most coaches, parents, and players don’t understand these rules and they end up screaming at refs as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't know about baseball, but I have noticed in basketball I and many of the coaches don't quite understand all of the nuances of the rules, probably most of the referees don't either. I tried to teach my daughter the Euro step, a couple of coaches have called it a travel already. I had to find videos explaining the gather step.

I also recall as a player having limited understanding of the rules on occasion when I was called on to handle the ball. The thing is kids get put in positions, I played post, the nuances of reaching in and hand checking, dribbling the ball for five seconds etc. just aren't relevant. I needed to understand over the back, lane violations and going clean blocks etc.

It would be nice if some of the AAU travel teams had some training on that.

So do most youth refs