Anonymous wrote:According to Virginia Tech's engineering page, the average SAT for math for engineering students was 689. They didn't publish the median, but even still, if your child is in the top 10% of their class in Virgina, and gets that SAT score, Va Tech is an easy admit, even for engineering.

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Anonymous wrote:here is the common data set for Fall 2023 (1 year lag)
https://aie.vt.edu/content/dam/aie_vt_edu/common-data-set/23-24/CDS_2023-2024.pdf

students who submitted test scores; 72% had 4.0
students who went TO, 55% had 4.0

few B's seem to be okay. interesting to see lower GPA for TO .. would have thought it was the other way.

Of course not, the students who go TO are the weaker students.

VT doesn’t need all As! Their main priority is first gen applicants (since they want 40% of their student body to be first gen).

That isn't their "main priority" and they've already reached that goal. But keep up trying to explain why your own kid didn't get in.
DP

Such a silly retort - are you the sour grapes poster? The way VT can keep making its 40% goal is to keep prioritizing it in admissions. They can’t stop now if the goal is still important to them. And 40% of applicants aren’t first gen so the ones that are will be prioritized.

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Anonymous wrote:here is the common data set for Fall 2023 (1 year lag)
https://aie.vt.edu/content/dam/aie_vt_edu/common-data-set/23-24/CDS_2023-2024.pdf

students who submitted test scores; 72% had 4.0
students who went TO, 55% had 4.0

few B's seem to be okay. interesting to see lower GPA for TO .. would have thought it was the other way.

Of course not, the students who go TO are the weaker students.

VT doesn’t need all As! Their main priority is first gen applicants (since they want 40% of their student body to be first gen).

That isn't their "main priority" and they've already reached that goal. But keep up trying to explain why your own kid didn't get in.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

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Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

You have posted this, almost verbatim, so many times on this forum. PLENTY of top engineering talent goes to VT. Many also go to the schools you listed - but it's laughable to claim that they don't also go to VT. Especially for most people, who can't afford the privates. I think you're the TJ parent whose kid didn't get into VT a few years ago and you still can't let it go.

? have never posted before and mine is at an ivy

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Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

Undergrad ranking has nothing to do with cross yield. At TJ all of the top stem kids do not pick VT despite getting in. They have gone to Ivies, GA Tech, Hopkins, Michigan, MIT and Duke, all for engineering, in the past 4 yrs. VT is a safety school for these kids, as is Purdue. Same with the top private schools: they do not pick VT. They want the right peer group and VT students with SAT math averaging 700 would be a horrible fit.

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Anonymous wrote:From an FCPS school. Is admissions expectation all As in high school math classes?

Is this a joke? 4.0 Weighted yes, but not UW. Doesnt your school have scoir or naviance? VT even engineering is not a difficult admit requiring top students. The math SAT avg is below 700. Bs are fine. More As than Bs is best, and taking higher level STEM classes.

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Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Top engineering students don't pick Ivies, NW or Duke.
2025 USNWR Top undergraduate engineering programs
1. MIT
10. Cornell
12. Princeton
13. Hopkins
13. VT
16. Northwestern
20. Duke
20. Columbia
27. Harvard
27. Penn
35. Yale
43. Brown
51. Dartmouth

Anonymous wrote:From an FCPS school. Is admissions expectation all As in high school math classes?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

Anonymous wrote:Remember, the average Va Tech freshman admitted to engineering has a math SAT score BELOW 700.

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Anonymous wrote:here is the common data set for Fall 2023 (1 year lag)
https://aie.vt.edu/content/dam/aie_vt_edu/common-data-set/23-24/CDS_2023-2024.pdf

students who submitted test scores; 72% had 4.0
students who went TO, 55% had 4.0

few B's seem to be okay. interesting to see lower GPA for TO .. would have thought it was the other way.

Of course not, the students who go TO are the weaker students.

VT doesn’t need all As! Their main priority is first gen applicants (since they want 40% of their student body to be first gen).

That isn't their "main priority" and they've already reached that goal. But keep up trying to explain why your own kid didn't get in.
DP

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The average WEIGHTED GPA of a freshman enigneering student is 4.26.

The average SAT Math of a freshman engineering student is 690.

With AP and Honors classes, having a 4.26 is not uncommon.

Most high schools in Fairfax County have 25% of their class above a 4.0

THIS. 690 as an AVG SAT math come on. VT is not a top engineering program for the best and brightest. They take plenty of above average kids. 4.26 weighted with standard weighting in VA is the middle of the college-bound high schoolers, maybe slightly above. Dean J and others have gone on record that there are high schools in VA with OVER 70% of the graduating class with over 4. WEIGHTED. I know she is UVA, but it is true. Our median is 4.25-4.3, the HS across town with similar weighting is 4.1 median. These kids have 3.7-3.9 unweighted. These are typical suburban public schools where the VT admissions are from the top 3 deciles, a few are lower. The top group goes elsewhere. VT even for engineering is NOT a hard admit. UVA is harder, but still NOT a hard admit. MIT/Ivies/JHU/Northwestern/Duke are hard to get into for Engineering. That is where top Engineering talent in VA goes

You have posted this, almost verbatim, so many times on this forum. PLENTY of top engineering talent goes to VT. Many also go to the schools you listed - but it's laughable to claim that they don't also go to VT. Especially for most people, who can't afford the privates. I think you're the TJ parent whose kid didn't get into VT a few years ago and you still can't let it go.