Anonymous
10/04/2024 10:22
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
IME, bureaucrats being defensive about audit findings is the rule rather than the exception, and elected officials are even worse. In Montgomery County, MCPS has been like this for decades. In fact there was a report about how most school systems in Maryland pretty much ignore audit findings.
I wish our options included Perfect Leaders, but politics is messy and the people who make it to the top always have some skeletons in their closets, because that's how you get ahead.
I'm grateful to CNN because work like this can perhaps move the needle a little bit to encourage our elected officials to be better stewards of our tax dollars.
That being said, this does not prevent me from voting for the Harris/Walz ticket, as it is just a fact that neither Trump nor Vance are remotely fit to lead this country.
I wish our options included Perfect Leaders, but politics is messy and the people who make it to the top always have some skeletons in their closets, because that's how you get ahead.
I'm grateful to CNN because work like this can perhaps move the needle a little bit to encourage our elected officials to be better stewards of our tax dollars.
That being said, this does not prevent me from voting for the Harris/Walz ticket, as it is just a fact that neither Trump nor Vance are remotely fit to lead this country.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 10:15
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Minneapolis
CNN
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One state audit found that bonus checks intended for frontline workers during the pandemic were handed out to undeserving recipients. Another criticized a Minnesota state agency for failing to ensure there were no conflicts of interest in taxpayer-funded mental health and addiction programs. A third detailed lax oversight of a program to feed needy kids which federal prosecutors say resulted in the nation’s largest Covid-era fraud scheme.
But when confronted with these and other troubling examples of waste, fraud and abuse, some state agencies working under the administration of Democratic Gov. Tim Walz repeatedly minimized or dismissed the allegations, the state’s nonpartisan auditor, Judy Randall, told CNN.
A CNN review of audits – and the responses they prompted – as well as interviews with statewide politicians and pundits, found that Walz has been a hands-off leader when it comes to seeking accountability for episodes of fraud and mismanagement on his watch. What’s more, some state agencies headed by his appointees have responded defensively in recent months to the audits – a dynamic that Randall, who has worked in the department for 26 years, has found surprising.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/04/politics/walz-audits-fraud-accountability-invs
Walz has presided over shocking amounts of fraud, waste and abuse as governor. Even CNN is finding very troubling patterns in MN, and pointing out that Walz is actively ignoring these problems.
Why is he considered a good leader if his performance as chief executive of MN is so bad?
He lies about everything & the lapdog press doesn’t challenge what he says.
Obama>Biden>Kammie>Walz. Dems never have to answer to the press or DOJ, so their candidates just keep getting more dishonest & stupid.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 10:14
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Walz benefit from the fraud? Because in Trump's case, the answer is yes, Trump befitted directly from fraud. That is so much worse than having fraud by a few bureaucrats happen on your watch.
So is that the rule now? Unless a politician personally benefits from fraud, the politician's incompetence, turning a blind eye, or cover up are no longer fair game?
This is such a boring story. You can do the same for every single state in the U.S., red and blue. Everybody knows that, which is why you'll get zero traction with it.
+1 Every state has fraud, including red states. News is chock full of such stories.
The biggest fraud, however, is Trump. Everyone else pales in comparison.
Please explain. Also, I thought NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW?
No one is above the law, indeed. But Walz is not a criminal here. There is crime apparently happening under his watch, which is in stark contrast to Trump, who is the criminal himself. Get it?
Nope. If they tried Trump, Walz should be tried as well.
There is no equivalency here. Walz’s situation =|= Trump’s situation.
You think a MAGA sh!t stirrer is going to understand math notation?
Anonymous
10/04/2024 10:11
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Walz benefit from the fraud? Because in Trump's case, the answer is yes, Trump befitted directly from fraud. That is so much worse than having fraud by a few bureaucrats happen on your watch.
So is that the rule now? Unless a politician personally benefits from fraud, the politician's incompetence, turning a blind eye, or cover up are no longer fair game?
This is such a boring story. You can do the same for every single state in the U.S., red and blue. Everybody knows that, which is why you'll get zero traction with it.
+1 Every state has fraud, including red states. News is chock full of such stories.
The biggest fraud, however, is Trump. Everyone else pales in comparison.
Please explain. Also, I thought NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW?
No one is above the law, indeed. But Walz is not a criminal here. There is crime apparently happening under his watch, which is in stark contrast to Trump, who is the criminal himself. Get it?
Nope. If they tried Trump, Walz should be tried as well.
There is no equivalency here. Walz’s situation =|= Trump’s situation.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 10:07
Subject: Re:As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:54
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Walz benefit from the fraud? Because in Trump's case, the answer is yes, Trump befitted directly from fraud. That is so much worse than having fraud by a few bureaucrats happen on your watch.
So is that the rule now? Unless a politician personally benefits from fraud, the politician's incompetence, turning a blind eye, or cover up are no longer fair game?
This is such a boring story. You can do the same for every single state in the U.S., red and blue. Everybody knows that, which is why you'll get zero traction with it.
+1 Every state has fraud, including red states. News is chock full of such stories.
The biggest fraud, however, is Trump. Everyone else pales in comparison.
Please explain. Also, I thought NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW?
No one is above the law, indeed. But Walz is not a criminal here. There is crime apparently happening under his watch, which is in stark contrast to Trump, who is the criminal himself. Get it?
Nope. If they tried Trump, Walz should be tried as well.
For what? Name the crime.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:53
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Walz benefit from the fraud? Because in Trump's case, the answer is yes, Trump befitted directly from fraud. That is so much worse than having fraud by a few bureaucrats happen on your watch.
So is that the rule now? Unless a politician personally benefits from fraud, the politician's incompetence, turning a blind eye, or cover up are no longer fair game?
This is such a boring story. You can do the same for every single state in the U.S., red and blue. Everybody knows that, which is why you'll get zero traction with it.
+1 Every state has fraud, including red states. News is chock full of such stories.
The biggest fraud, however, is Trump. Everyone else pales in comparison.
Please explain. Also, I thought NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW?
No one is above the law, indeed. But Walz is not a criminal here. There is crime apparently happening under his watch, which is in stark contrast to Trump, who is the criminal himself. Get it?
Nope. If they tried Trump, Walz should be tried as well.
So you see no difference between say, someone who shoots someone, and someone who was in the vicinity of a person shooting someone who could possibly have stopped the shooting?
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:44
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg they’re grasping at straws.
CNN is grasping at straws?
Why do you think the fraud uncovered under Walz in MN is not important?
There's literally federal monies fraud in all 50 states - taxes, COVID funds, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, veterans' benefits, etc.
Waste and fraud is a FEATURE of all these programs because scamsters are attracted to getting government money. Ask Senator Rick Scott.
A CNN review of audits – and the responses they prompted – as well as interviews with statewide politicians and pundits, found that Walz has been a hands-off leader when it comes to seeking accountability for episodes of fraud and mismanagement on his watch. What’s more, some state agencies headed by his appointees have responded defensively in recent months to the audits – a dynamic that Randall, who has worked in the department for 26 years, has found surprising.
“They’ve been emboldened because they’ve got the cover,” Koran said. “They believe they’re untouchable.”
Some nonpartisan political observers in Minnesota say there’s truth to the complaints.
Dan Myers, an associate professor of political science at the University of Minnesota, said Democrats’ so-called trifecta in state government has likely hindered efforts to get clear answers into what went wrong in certain cases of fraud and waste.
“There has been less digging into that than there almost certainly would be if Republicans had had one more seat in the state Senate,” he said.
Ah- this mirrors the attitudes of democrats posting here: it’s ok if it’s us. ✅
then the state AG should uncover it and charge for the crimes. No one is suggesting otherwise.
Everyone is suggesting otherwise. They are suggesting it’s normal.
One person says it’s MAGAS framing Walz.
All those MAGAS in MN! Ok Juicy Smollyay.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:38
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Walz benefit from the fraud? Because in Trump's case, the answer is yes, Trump befitted directly from fraud. That is so much worse than having fraud by a few bureaucrats happen on your watch.
So is that the rule now? Unless a politician personally benefits from fraud, the politician's incompetence, turning a blind eye, or cover up are no longer fair game?
This is such a boring story. You can do the same for every single state in the U.S., red and blue. Everybody knows that, which is why you'll get zero traction with it.
+1 Every state has fraud, including red states. News is chock full of such stories.
The biggest fraud, however, is Trump. Everyone else pales in comparison.
Please explain. Also, I thought NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW?
No one is above the law, indeed. But Walz is not a criminal here. There is crime apparently happening under his watch, which is in stark contrast to Trump, who is the criminal himself. Get it?
Nope. If they tried Trump, Walz should be tried as well.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:38
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg they’re grasping at straws.
CNN is grasping at straws?
Why do you think the fraud uncovered under Walz in MN is not important?
There's literally federal monies fraud in all 50 states - taxes, COVID funds, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, veterans' benefits, etc.
Waste and fraud is a FEATURE of all these programs because scamsters are attracted to getting government money. Ask Senator Rick Scott.
A CNN review of audits – and the responses they prompted – as well as interviews with statewide politicians and pundits, found that Walz has been a hands-off leader when it comes to seeking accountability for episodes of fraud and mismanagement on his watch. What’s more, some state agencies headed by his appointees have responded defensively in recent months to the audits – a dynamic that Randall, who has worked in the department for 26 years, has found surprising.
“They’ve been emboldened because they’ve got the cover,” Koran said. “They believe they’re untouchable.”
Some nonpartisan political observers in Minnesota say there’s truth to the complaints.
Dan Myers, an associate professor of political science at the University of Minnesota, said Democrats’ so-called trifecta in state government has likely hindered efforts to get clear answers into what went wrong in certain cases of fraud and waste.
“There has been less digging into that than there almost certainly would be if Republicans had had one more seat in the state Senate,” he said.
Ah- this mirrors the attitudes of democrats posting here: it’s ok if it’s us. ✅
then the state AG should uncover it and charge for the crimes. No one is suggesting otherwise.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:37
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Walz benefit from the fraud? Because in Trump's case, the answer is yes, Trump befitted directly from fraud. That is so much worse than having fraud by a few bureaucrats happen on your watch.
So is that the rule now? Unless a politician personally benefits from fraud, the politician's incompetence, turning a blind eye, or cover up are no longer fair game?
This is such a boring story. You can do the same for every single state in the U.S., red and blue. Everybody knows that, which is why you'll get zero traction with it.
+1 Every state has fraud, including red states. News is chock full of such stories.
The biggest fraud, however, is Trump. Everyone else pales in comparison.
Please explain. Also, I thought NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW?
No one is above the law, indeed. But Walz is not a criminal here. There is crime apparently happening under his watch, which is in stark contrast to Trump, who is the criminal himself. Get it?
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:36
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Walz benefit from the fraud? Because in Trump's case, the answer is yes, Trump befitted directly from fraud. That is so much worse than having fraud by a few bureaucrats happen on your watch.
So is that the rule now? Unless a politician personally benefits from fraud, the politician's incompetence, turning a blind eye, or cover up are no longer fair game?
This is such a boring story. You can do the same for every single state in the U.S., red and blue. Everybody knows that, which is why you'll get zero traction with it.
+1 Every state has fraud, including red states. News is chock full of such stories.
The biggest fraud, however, is Trump. Everyone else pales in comparison.
Except this thread is based specifically off of a news report from CNN about MN’s fraud and Walz refusing to acknowledge it or do anything about it.
Allegations of waste and abuse have hit Minnesota state agencies. Critics say Gov. Tim Walz hasn’t done enough to stop it. CNN’s Kyung Lah reports.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/04/politics/video/invs-walz-criticism-state-fraud-scandals
You understand that everytime a MAGA posts a story about some democrats foibles, it bounces off because no matter what it is, Trump has done worse. Fraud, sex, mismanagement, lying, it doesn't matter the foible. So it really doesn't stick, because the MAGAs are trying to ascribe outrage over something someone else has done without looking in their own basement and cleaning up their own mess.
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:34
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did Walz benefit from the fraud? Because in Trump's case, the answer is yes, Trump befitted directly from fraud. That is so much worse than having fraud by a few bureaucrats happen on your watch.
So is that the rule now? Unless a politician personally benefits from fraud, the politician's incompetence, turning a blind eye, or cover up are no longer fair game?
With Trump, you get both fraud and mismanagement. Walz, who would be the vice-president, not the president, gives you one, apparently (and I am willing to bet that the fraud in MN is being done by MAGAs to make the governor look bad)
Anonymous
10/04/2024 09:02
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg they’re grasping at straws.
CNN is grasping at straws?
Why do you think the fraud uncovered under Walz in MN is not important?
There's literally federal monies fraud in all 50 states - taxes, COVID funds, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, veterans' benefits, etc.
Waste and fraud is a FEATURE of all these programs because scamsters are attracted to getting government money. Ask Senator Rick Scott.
A CNN review of audits – and the responses they prompted – as well as interviews with statewide politicians and pundits, found that Walz has been a hands-off leader when it comes to seeking accountability for episodes of fraud and mismanagement on his watch. What’s more, some state agencies headed by his appointees have responded defensively in recent months to the audits – a dynamic that Randall, who has worked in the department for 26 years, has found surprising.
“They’ve been emboldened because they’ve got the cover,” Koran said. “They believe they’re untouchable.”
Some nonpartisan political observers in Minnesota say there’s truth to the complaints.
Dan Myers, an associate professor of political science at the University of Minnesota, said Democrats’ so-called trifecta in state government has likely hindered efforts to get clear answers into what went wrong in certain cases of fraud and waste.
“There has been less digging into that than there almost certainly would be if Republicans had had one more seat in the state Senate,” he said.
Ah- this mirrors the attitudes of democrats posting here: it’s ok if it’s us. ✅
Anonymous
10/04/2024 08:53
Subject: As fraud scandals erupt in Minnesota on Gov. Tim Walz’s watch, accountability is in short supply
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Omg they’re grasping at straws.
CNN is grasping at straws?
Why do you think the fraud uncovered under Walz in MN is not important?
There's literally federal monies fraud in all 50 states - taxes, COVID funds, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, veterans' benefits, etc.
Waste and fraud is a FEATURE of all these programs because scamsters are attracted to getting government money. Ask Senator Rick Scott.