Anonymous wrote:I watched it and she seemed bitter and played the victim. I did enjoy watching her show during Covid. Both she + Rosie O'Donnell had great shows and then both turned nasty + mean when they became rich.

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Anonymous wrote:Ellen Degeneres has a new standup special on Netflix.

I found the intro really obnoxious. It's a compilation of her career playing while she walks to the stage and when it gets to the stuff about her getting cancelled it shows her looking very emotional and upset. And then she goes out on stage. I don't like it because it's not funny and feels self indulgent and this is a stand up show.

However the show itself is actually pretty funny. It's mostly very much her old style of standup -- observational humore about cars and parking and chickens and other random topics. But she does touch on being cancelled and other more personal topics like coming out on her sitcom. It's all well written and delivered -- she's a pro. She is clearly still very much upset about what happened to her career and a lot of it does serve as a kind of defense of herself. But she doesn't come off as wallowing and most importantly -- it's funny.

I don't know how I feel about Ellen. I found her talk show really cloying and fake. Also when all the revelations about her being a bad boss and having a toxic workplace came out I was just coming off a job with a a really toxic environment and I was primed to be like "f*** Ellen." But watching the special made me appreciate her as a joke writer and stand up. She's genuinely good at it and made me laugh which is the whole point. She's probably not a great boss because most people are not. Perhaps she should just do stand-up instead. Lots of stand ups are mean or jerks and it's really not a problem.

I wonder how this happened. She’s horrible and I wouldn’t watch. Did you watch OP?

Anonymous wrote:Ellen Degeneres has a new standup special on Netflix.

I found the intro really obnoxious. It's a compilation of her career playing while she walks to the stage and when it gets to the stuff about her getting cancelled it shows her looking very emotional and upset. And then she goes out on stage. I don't like it because it's not funny and feels self indulgent and this is a stand up show.

However the show itself is actually pretty funny. It's mostly very much her old style of standup -- observational humore about cars and parking and chickens and other random topics. But she does touch on being cancelled and other more personal topics like coming out on her sitcom. It's all well written and delivered -- she's a pro. She is clearly still very much upset about what happened to her career and a lot of it does serve as a kind of defense of herself. But she doesn't come off as wallowing and most importantly -- it's funny.

I don't know how I feel about Ellen. I found her talk show really cloying and fake. Also when all the revelations about her being a bad boss and having a toxic workplace came out I was just coming off a job with a a really toxic environment and I was primed to be like "f*** Ellen." But watching the special made me appreciate her as a joke writer and stand up. She's genuinely good at it and made me laugh which is the whole point. She's probably not a great boss because most people are not. Perhaps she should just do stand-up instead. Lots of stand ups are mean or jerks and it's really not a problem.

Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what she actually did that was horrible? How did she terrorize people? Was it because she liked to prank?

Anonymous wrote:I find it fascinating how personal people are taking this. There are so many kind of terrible people whose art we still choose to consume. I wonder what it is about Ellen that produces this severe of a reaction. Especially when her wrong doing -- while I'll agree she sounds like a horrible boss -- also sounds like a LOT of bad bosses. Like I've had two bosses I'd rank on the same level if not worse and I'm just a regular person.

Anonymous wrote:She is a narcissist and I will watch nothing she is in.

Anonymous wrote:I find it fascinating how personal people are taking this. There are so many kind of terrible people whose art we still choose to consume. I wonder what it is about Ellen that produces this severe of a reaction. Especially when her wrong doing -- while I'll agree she sounds like a horrible boss -- also sounds like a LOT of bad bosses. Like I've had two bosses I'd rank on the same level if not worse and I'm just a regular person.

Anonymous wrote:I find it fascinating how personal people are taking this. There are so many kind of terrible people whose art we still choose to consume. I wonder what it is about Ellen that produces this severe of a reaction. Especially when her wrong doing -- while I'll agree she sounds like a horrible boss -- also sounds like a LOT of bad bosses. Like I've had two bosses I'd rank on the same level if not worse and I'm just a regular person.