Anonymous wrote:Actually, Asheville is avery blue area in a red state. So ignoring them doesn't fit.

It looks like to me that only major TV news channels are ignoring the disaster, including the weather channel.

I've heard news after the aftermath on Washington Post, NPR, and local news channels.

NBC is posting about it all over my Apple News feed.

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Because we get less and less of our news from MSM and if it is not being covered on social media sites there are a lot of people not seeing it. If cell service is down and a lack of power there are fewer non traditional reporters that are reporting on it?

OP here. My issue is actually that social media seems much more informative about the scope of what is happening. It feels like WaPo and NY Times aren't fully conveying how catastrophic this is.

CNN, NBC, and USA Today, plus tons of local news outlets are all over my Apple News Feed about this. Why are you just obsessing about NYT and WP (who have also covered it but not to your satisfaction?) There is only so much new news to report. Catastrophic flooding, many people stranded, roads washed out, first responders can’t reach them, power out. It’s all been reported already - what do you want them to report?????

Ugh I've described my concerns. I don't watch TV news. Agree to disagree. Not going to keep repeating what I've already described.

Ugh okay. You are the one that brought it up. Maybe stick to social media for stories about people’s personal family stories.

And I posted my concerns with examples. You ignored them.

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like this huge disaster is getting ignored. Entire communities have been destroyed. Some won't have water for a week. I see that WaPo.and NY Times are reporting on it but it's below the Middle East and the election and the focus on the deaths which present it as isolated issues.

It doesn’t get clicks. Better to spin everyone up on anti-semitism and Gaza than actually report.

It is a huge disaster. And we likely won’t understand the full scope for another week or two.

There is no electricity, cell or sewer service in the hardest-hit areas. Want to think through how the logistics of reporting from there should work?

The above is reason number 1 why there’s not fuller reporting; it’s going to be a minute before we know the extent.

The other reasons are completely unsexy: this is the result of decades of disinvestment in infrastructure and decades of ignoring global warming. This is exactly what people have been warning about and I think many people across multiple states have felt secure from the worst ravages of global warming’s effects, but this is how it’s going to be: comparatively random events and devastating. Biden has put in the infrastructure work, but that’s just the beginning.

All of the reporting on this should feature the compounding effect of global warming on the strength of this hurricane.

Why is every disaster these days automatically attributed to "climate change". FWIW, a similar flood occured in the same areas in 1916. Was that caused by "climate change" too?

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4904495-climcate-change-hurricanes-intensifying-how/

The proportion of hurricanes that fall into these more intense categories 4 and 5 are expected to increase as the planet heats up, according to the most recent report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a well-respected climate science authority from the United Nations. Peak hurricane wind speeds are also expected to rise.

“These hurricanes are getting bigger and stronger and that is due to simple energy transfer,” said Claudia Benitez-Nelson, a climate scientist at the University of South Carolina.

Benitez-Nelson explained that a hotter planet means more energy can transfer from the ocean to the atmosphere.


“And what are hurricanes? They’re big balls of energy and so that energy is now feeding into these tropical storms,” she said.

I'm sure the "Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" doesn't have any sort of agenda regarding this phenomenon.

As I said. Every single article about Hurricane Helene should be covering the effects of climate change on intensifying storms.

Actually, Asheville is avery blue area in a red state. So ignoring them doesn't fit.

It looks like to me that only major TV news channels are ignoring the disaster, including the weather channel.

I've heard news after the aftermath on Washington Post, NPR, and local news channels.

Anonymous wrote:Because it impacted red states.

Hurricanes always impact red states. Every so often NY and NJ get hit

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like this huge disaster is getting ignored. Entire communities have been destroyed. Some won't have water for a week. I see that WaPo.and NY Times are reporting on it but it's below the Middle East and the election and the focus on the deaths which present it as isolated issues.

It doesn’t get clicks. Better to spin everyone up on anti-semitism and Gaza than actually report.

It is a huge disaster. And we likely won’t understand the full scope for another week or two.

+1.

Npr has been leading with Helene news, at least on the radio.

Washington Post also featured the damage today.

I've been mostly following NC new media and Facebook pages of my friends in NC for additional news as well. It looks bad, like the death toll will go way up bad.

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like this huge disaster is getting ignored. Entire communities have been destroyed. Some won't have water for a week. I see that WaPo.and NY Times are reporting on it but it's below the Middle East and the election and the focus on the deaths which present it as isolated issues.

It doesn’t get clicks. Better to spin everyone up on anti-semitism and Gaza than actually report.

It is a huge disaster. And we likely won’t understand the full scope for another week or two.

There is no electricity, cell or sewer service in the hardest-hit areas. Want to think through how the logistics of reporting from there should work?

The above is reason number 1 why there’s not fuller reporting; it’s going to be a minute before we know the extent.

The other reasons are completely unsexy: this is the result of decades of disinvestment in infrastructure and decades of ignoring global warming. This is exactly what people have been warning about and I think many people across multiple states have felt secure from the worst ravages of global warming’s effects, but this is how it’s going to be: comparatively random events and devastating. Biden has put in the infrastructure work, but that’s just the beginning.

All of the reporting on this should feature the compounding effect of global warming on the strength of this hurricane.

Why is every disaster these days automatically attributed to "climate change". FWIW, a similar flood occured in the same areas in 1916. Was that caused by "climate change" too?

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4904495-climcate-change-hurricanes-intensifying-how/

The proportion of hurricanes that fall into these more intense categories 4 and 5 are expected to increase as the planet heats up, according to the most recent report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a well-respected climate science authority from the United Nations. Peak hurricane wind speeds are also expected to rise.

“These hurricanes are getting bigger and stronger and that is due to simple energy transfer,” said Claudia Benitez-Nelson, a climate scientist at the University of South Carolina.

Benitez-Nelson explained that a hotter planet means more energy can transfer from the ocean to the atmosphere.


“And what are hurricanes? They’re big balls of energy and so that energy is now feeding into these tropical storms,” she said.

I'm sure the "Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change" doesn't have any sort of agenda regarding this phenomenon.

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like this huge disaster is getting ignored. Entire communities have been destroyed. Some won't have water for a week. I see that WaPo.and NY Times are reporting on it but it's below the Middle East and the election and the focus on the deaths which present it as isolated issues.

Because it rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat for those hurricane prone areas. The government will spend billions to rebuild and then in five years another storm will come through and do blow it away again.

Check your map. I wouldn't exactly describe Asheville, NC, a town hundreds of miles inland, as "hurricane prone".

Anonymous wrote:It feels like this huge disaster is getting ignored. Entire communities have been destroyed. Some won't have water for a week. I see that WaPo.and NY Times are reporting on it but it's below the Middle East and the election and the focus on the deaths which present it as isolated issues.

Because it rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat for those hurricane prone areas. The government will spend billions to rebuild and then in five years another storm will come through and do blow it away again.

Helene is front page news on both WaPo and NYT today. What is OP whining about?

Major print new outlets rarely engage in tragedy porn, which seems to be what OP is looking for based on the example she gave.

OP you could probably do a search of GoFundMe’s and find what you are looking for.

The simple reason is that WaPo and NYT specifically (the ones you seem most interested in) are extremely partisan which means they know the readers aren’t that interested in what’s happening in red states AND they also don’t have a network on the ground of reporters and sources to gather the news in the first place. The more moderate publications have been covering it.

I agree that it’s a huge disaster though and contrary to what the ignorant PP said, this has nothing to do with poor management or infrastructure. When a category 3 or 4 hurricane comes barreling through, nothing is going to stop it. You should think yourself lucky that you don’t understand that. The management on the ground has actually been incredible. Look at the photos and videos of the armies of linemen and medical vehicles getting positioned in the area before the hurricane hit, plus the evacuation orders were all timely and accurate. That’s why there wasn’t way more loss of life.

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Because we get less and less of our news from MSM and if it is not being covered on social media sites there are a lot of people not seeing it. If cell service is down and a lack of power there are fewer non traditional reporters that are reporting on it?

OP here. My issue is actually that social media seems much more informative about the scope of what is happening. It feels like WaPo and NY Times aren't fully conveying how catastrophic this is.

CNN, NBC, and USA Today, plus tons of local news outlets are all over my Apple News Feed about this. Why are you just obsessing about NYT and WP (who have also covered it but not to your satisfaction?) There is only so much new news to report. Catastrophic flooding, many people stranded, roads washed out, first responders can’t reach them, power out. It’s all been reported already - what do you want them to report?????

Ugh I've described my concerns. I don't watch TV news. Agree to disagree. Not going to keep repeating what I've already described.

Ugh okay. You are the one that brought it up. Maybe stick to social media for stories about people’s personal family stories.

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Anonymous wrote:It feels like this huge disaster is getting ignored. Entire communities have been destroyed. Some won't have water for a week. I see that WaPo.and NY Times are reporting on it but it's below the Middle East and the election and the focus on the deaths which present it as isolated issues.

It doesn’t get clicks. Better to spin everyone up on anti-semitism and Gaza than actually report.

It is a huge disaster. And we likely won’t understand the full scope for another week or two.

There is no electricity, cell or sewer service in the hardest-hit areas. Want to think through how the logistics of reporting from there should work?

The above is reason number 1 why there’s not fuller reporting; it’s going to be a minute before we know the extent.

The other reasons are completely unsexy: this is the result of decades of disinvestment in infrastructure and decades of ignoring global warming. This is exactly what people have been warning about and I think many people across multiple states have felt secure from the worst ravages of global warming’s effects, but this is how it’s going to be: comparatively random events and devastating. Biden has put in the infrastructure work, but that’s just the beginning.

All of the reporting on this should feature the compounding effect of global warming on the strength of this hurricane.

Why is every disaster these days automatically attributed to "climate change". FWIW, a similar flood occured in the same areas in 1916. Was that caused by "climate change" too?

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/4904495-climcate-change-hurricanes-intensifying-how/

The proportion of hurricanes that fall into these more intense categories 4 and 5 are expected to increase as the planet heats up, according to the most recent report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a well-respected climate science authority from the United Nations. Peak hurricane wind speeds are also expected to rise.

“These hurricanes are getting bigger and stronger and that is due to simple energy transfer,” said Claudia Benitez-Nelson, a climate scientist at the University of South Carolina.

Benitez-Nelson explained that a hotter planet means more energy can transfer from the ocean to the atmosphere.


“And what are hurricanes? They’re big balls of energy and so that energy is now feeding into these tropical storms,” she said.