Anonymous
09/28/2024 01:46
Subject: BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Charter schools are a failed fantasy of Bush-era “entrepreneurial education” nonsense. They are historically prone to abuse and corruption at levels that make MCPS look sane.
Good luck.
Thankfully not as bad as the academy school takeover of state schools in England by the private sector, a legacy of the Conservative party over the past ten years. There are hardly any state schools left, and the privately run academy schools have not provided improved outcomes. In many cases schools are worse off and multiple schools have consolidated to save costs and increase profits.
Have you looked at MCPS outcomes recently?
Anonymous
09/28/2024 01:45
Subject: Re:BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A black-owned charter school in MCPS, that the BOE fought every step of the way. The only reason why it's happening is because MECCA kept going back to the state to appeal and overturn all of the hurdles the BOE kept throwing their way.
It'll be interesting to see how MCPS's first charter school performs. If it flops, it'll be difficult to get another for a while.
At least the board put up a fight. This is really bad. Gutting public education is a terrible idea.
But embezzling public school funding is fine.
The BOE has mismanaged funds and made many questionable decisions. This isn't gutting public education, its giving parents options for their kids and maybe the competition will do MCPS some good.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 23:51
Subject: BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:Charter schools are a failed fantasy of Bush-era “entrepreneurial education” nonsense. They are historically prone to abuse and corruption at levels that make MCPS look sane.
Good luck.
Thankfully not as bad as the academy school takeover of state schools in England by the private sector, a legacy of the Conservative party over the past ten years. There are hardly any state schools left, and the privately run academy schools have not provided improved outcomes. In many cases schools are worse off and multiple schools have consolidated to save costs and increase profits.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 23:42
Subject: Re:BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A black-owned charter school in MCPS, that the BOE fought every step of the way. The only reason why it's happening is because MECCA kept going back to the state to appeal and overturn all of the hurdles the BOE kept throwing their way.
It'll be interesting to see how MCPS's first charter school performs. If it flops, it'll be difficult to get another for a while.
At least the board put up a fight. This is really bad. Gutting public education is a terrible idea.
But embezzling public school funding is fine.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 23:29
Subject: Re:BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:It’s commonly accepted that monopolies are, by definition, not a good idea. Why is it that in this one area, competition is viewed as an abomination?
It’s clear from this forum that a lot of people are unhappy with MCPS. Granted, much of DCUM could probably swing private schooling, even if it might require sacrifice, but it’s just not an option for most of the county residents. Are monopolies okay for the poor, as long as the wealthy have alternatives?
Sure, a lot of charters aren’t very good, but a lot of public schools aren’t either. There are also charter schools that are excellent and offer their students a better education and/or overall experience than they could have had through their local district schools.
I’m not saying that every proposed charter school should be permitted, regardless of its merit, or lack thereof. However, blocking every charter school, on principle, regardless of its merit is nothing to feel virtuous about. The goal of public education is to educate the public. If there is an opportunity to provide children with a better education, the last thing anyone should do is stand in the way. Moreover, a little competition might help convince “one of the best school systems in the nation” that it isn’t as fabulous as it thinks it is, and prompt it to consider upping its game, which would ultimately be better for everyone.
Personally, I’m for charter schools, vouchers, more public magnets, virtual schools, and anything else anyone can think of to improve education for kids. Not only is their future at stake, but ours is as well. Not only will they one day be our doctors, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, etc., but they’ll also become our political leaders, diplomats, medical researchers, inventors, philosophers and ethicists, etc. Since the future is in their hands, shouldn’t we prepare them for it as best as we can, if for no other reason than our own self-interest?
First of all, much like with healthcare, market competition doesn't work so well with education. You're creating a zero sum game, where innocents can lose.
Second, even if your "competition" model worked, one charter school would not be competing with MCPS. It is, however, an excellent way for people like you who are into sweet sweet government graft, to siphon off more taxpayer dollars.
No centralized system is going to be perfect, but the ideal of offering the same educational opportunity to every student regardless of class, color, and creed is worth fighting for.
Don't like it? You have options now. Send your kids to private school.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 23:10
Subject: BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:I don't see any details about a location yet. Where is this planning to be? Moco is large...but I'm curious if it's down country or further east or west. I can probably guess but curious if anyone has any knowledge of this.
Upcountry in Gaithersburg
https://www.mymcmedia.org/business-charter-school-previously-rejected-by-county-gets-new-life/
https://www.mbef-cca.org
Anonymous
09/27/2024 22:13
Subject: BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:I don't see any details about a location yet. Where is this planning to be? Moco is large...but I'm curious if it's down country or further east or west. I can probably guess but curious if anyone has any knowledge of this.
It's in the document:
20261 Goldenrod Lane, Germantown, Maryland 20876
https://go.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/D9HRB56D1D81/$file/08.01%20MECCA%20MBLI%20Charter%20School%20240926.pdf
Anonymous
09/27/2024 21:56
Subject: BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:The grass is not always greener. We’ll see how long it lasts. Charter schools are not the answer to MCPS problems.
Probably not, but they might be the answer to some students’ problems with MCPS.
Meanwhile, what would you suggest as the answer(s) to MCPS’s problems?
Anonymous
09/27/2024 21:51
Subject: BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
The grass is not always greener. We’ll see how long it lasts. Charter schools are not the answer to MCPS problems.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 21:45
Subject: BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
I don't see any details about a location yet. Where is this planning to be? Moco is large...but I'm curious if it's down country or further east or west. I can probably guess but curious if anyone has any knowledge of this.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 21:10
Subject: Re:BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A black-owned charter school in MCPS, that the BOE fought every step of the way. The only reason why it's happening is because MECCA kept going back to the state to appeal and overturn all of the hurdles the BOE kept throwing their way.
It'll be interesting to see how MCPS's first charter school performs. If it flops, it'll be difficult to get another for a while.
At least the board put up a fight. This is really bad. Gutting public education is a terrible idea.
Right not MCPS NEEDS to be gutted and start fresh. What they are doing is not working but one has nothing to do with the other. Charters at this point are good to relieve overcrowding and to provide nitch areas we don't have.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 21:09
Subject: Re:BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:It’s commonly accepted that monopolies are, by definition, not a good idea. Why is it that in this one area, competition is viewed as an abomination?
It’s clear from this forum that a lot of people are unhappy with MCPS. Granted, much of DCUM could probably swing private schooling, even if it might require sacrifice, but it’s just not an option for most of the county residents. Are monopolies okay for the poor, as long as the wealthy have alternatives?
Sure, a lot of charters aren’t very good, but a lot of public schools aren’t either. There are also charter schools that are excellent and offer their students a better education and/or overall experience than they could have had through their local district schools.
I’m not saying that every proposed charter school should be permitted, regardless of its merit, or lack thereof. However, blocking every charter school, on principle, regardless of its merit is nothing to feel virtuous about. The goal of public education is to educate the public. If there is an opportunity to provide children with a better education, the last thing anyone should do is stand in the way. Moreover, a little competition might help convince “one of the best school systems in the nation” that it isn’t as fabulous as it thinks it is, and prompt it to consider upping its game, which would ultimately be better for everyone.
Personally, I’m for charter schools, vouchers, more public magnets, virtual schools, and anything else anyone can think of to improve education for kids. Not only is their future at stake, but ours is as well. Not only will they one day be our doctors, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, etc., but they’ll also become our political leaders, diplomats, medical researchers, inventors, philosophers and ethicists, etc. Since the future is in their hands, shouldn’t we prepare them for it as best as we can, if for no other reason than our own self-interest?
I'm not for vouchers as if you want private, you pay for it but its different from a charter school. The big issue is it diverts money from MCPS and the BOE does not believe in financial management.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 21:06
Subject: Re:BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
It’s commonly accepted that monopolies are, by definition, not a good idea. Why is it that in this one area, competition is viewed as an abomination?
It’s clear from this forum that a lot of people are unhappy with MCPS. Granted, much of DCUM could probably swing private schooling, even if it might require sacrifice, but it’s just not an option for most of the county residents. Are monopolies okay for the poor, as long as the wealthy have alternatives?
Sure, a lot of charters aren’t very good, but a lot of public schools aren’t either. There are also charter schools that are excellent and offer their students a better education and/or overall experience than they could have had through their local district schools.
I’m not saying that every proposed charter school should be permitted, regardless of its merit, or lack thereof. However, blocking every charter school, on principle, regardless of its merit is nothing to feel virtuous about. The goal of public education is to educate the public. If there is an opportunity to provide children with a better education, the last thing anyone should do is stand in the way. Moreover, a little competition might help convince “one of the best school systems in the nation” that it isn’t as fabulous as it thinks it is, and prompt it to consider upping its game, which would ultimately be better for everyone.
Personally, I’m for charter schools, vouchers, more public magnets, virtual schools, and anything else anyone can think of to improve education for kids. Not only is their future at stake, but ours is as well. Not only will they one day be our doctors, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, etc., but they’ll also become our political leaders, diplomats, medical researchers, inventors, philosophers and ethicists, etc. Since the future is in their hands, shouldn’t we prepare them for it as best as we can, if for no other reason than our own self-interest?
It’s clear from this forum that a lot of people are unhappy with MCPS. Granted, much of DCUM could probably swing private schooling, even if it might require sacrifice, but it’s just not an option for most of the county residents. Are monopolies okay for the poor, as long as the wealthy have alternatives?
Sure, a lot of charters aren’t very good, but a lot of public schools aren’t either. There are also charter schools that are excellent and offer their students a better education and/or overall experience than they could have had through their local district schools.
I’m not saying that every proposed charter school should be permitted, regardless of its merit, or lack thereof. However, blocking every charter school, on principle, regardless of its merit is nothing to feel virtuous about. The goal of public education is to educate the public. If there is an opportunity to provide children with a better education, the last thing anyone should do is stand in the way. Moreover, a little competition might help convince “one of the best school systems in the nation” that it isn’t as fabulous as it thinks it is, and prompt it to consider upping its game, which would ultimately be better for everyone.
Personally, I’m for charter schools, vouchers, more public magnets, virtual schools, and anything else anyone can think of to improve education for kids. Not only is their future at stake, but ours is as well. Not only will they one day be our doctors, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, etc., but they’ll also become our political leaders, diplomats, medical researchers, inventors, philosophers and ethicists, etc. Since the future is in their hands, shouldn’t we prepare them for it as best as we can, if for no other reason than our own self-interest?
Anonymous
09/27/2024 20:32
Subject: BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:Charter schools are a failed fantasy of Bush-era “entrepreneurial education” nonsense. They are historically prone to abuse and corruption at levels that make MCPS look sane.
Good luck.
They're usually run by the same people who dabble in private prisons.
Anonymous
09/27/2024 20:32
Subject: Re:BoE gives green light for first MCPS charter school
Anonymous wrote:A black-owned charter school in MCPS, that the BOE fought every step of the way. The only reason why it's happening is because MECCA kept going back to the state to appeal and overturn all of the hurdles the BOE kept throwing their way.
It'll be interesting to see how MCPS's first charter school performs. If it flops, it'll be difficult to get another for a while.
At least the board put up a fight. This is really bad. Gutting public education is a terrible idea.